The devilish pastors of “Hillsong” church in Melbourne, Australia, procrastinated and refused to welcome an innocent Christian, baselessly accused the innocent Christian of egocentricity, grossly charged the innocent Christian of having a predatory nature, and banned the innocent Christian from attending any gatherings or events at Hillsong. Whereas most churches covertly excommunicate Torsten, Hillsong Melbourne officially excommunicated.
(http://hillsong.com/melbourne)
(http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-London.htm)
Three Sundays I visited the Hillsong “church” in Melbourne, and upon each Sunday visit I inquired onsite about invitation to attend their so-called fellowship groups, and then also left my contact details with several persons holding informational roles in their church, requesting that their church would contact me. Hillsong never contacted me.
Several weeks after my repeated onsite Sunday requests to be contacted by Hillsong about attending a so-called fellowship group, I instead sent an email to Melbourne Hillsong. After several identical emails to three Hillsong groups, one of the group leaders responded, but he discontinued all communication. After additional email inquiries to attend a fellowship group, the pastor of Hillsong Melbourne sent an email to me explaining that Hillsong had decided to entirely excommunicate me from all Hillsong gatherings and from all Hillsong events.
Hillsong Melbourne excommunicated the innocent Christian with these words: ”I am writing to inform you that you do NOT have our permission to attend any of our gatherings or events at Hillsong Melbourne.”
Hillsong Melbourne baselessly accused that Torsten has a predatory nature, and that Torsten does not have the best interest of others. Hillsong Melbourne stated that their church is an inappropriate environment for Torsten. Hillsong also falsely accused that Torsten had visited several other “like-minded” churches in Melbourne where Torsten had deliberately sought to be disruptive in meetings. None of the accusation made by Hillsong are true. There is no degree of truth whatsoever to these entirely false accusation made by Hillsong against Torsten. Hillsong is lying.
The Hillsong empire is known to be a stage-focused hybrid of entertainment industry and superficial church culture.
Satan governs many (most) of the churches in Melbourne, sometimes through alliances of pastors and ministry leaders who prioritise collegial loyalty at the expense of God, love, truth, and justice. The evils of many (perhaps even most) church-pastors in Melbourne are a testimony to how satan has hijacked many churches, also in Melbourne.
I am absolutely innocent in relation to all excommunications from churches. Therefore, satan thrives on church-pastors’ sustainment and dissemination of church-pastoral lies. Satan’s lies through unrepentant church-pastors are defeated by exposure.
The complete dialogue with “Hillsong” in Melbourne is read chronologically from the bottom upwards, beneath:
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Date: |
Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:33:15 +1000 |
From: |
torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org> |
To: |
Tim Michael <tim.michael@volunteer.hillsong.com>, hillsong@hillsong.com, network@hillsong.com, breeanna.ironside@hillsong.com, ben.tam@hillsong.com, brett@hillsong.com, mandy_moo80@hotmail.com, annecowart@yahoo.com, brett.messer@gmail.com, bec.messer@gmail.com, jnamirthanathan@gmail.com, stephanie.bal@volunteer.hillsong.com, nigelkeegan@yahoo.com |
Subject: |
Hillsong Excommunication |
Hillsong Melbourne.
Hello Tim Michael,
It is God’s wisdom that I did not speak with you on a phone, so that your Hillsong evils with satanic accusations against my person could become evidence, in black on white, and could be exposed.
You make a lot of interesting statements and accusations.
You state: "It is very apparent that you are interested SOLELY be seeking a life partner for yourself."
· Question 1: Is there anything sinful or Biblically unethical in a never-married Christian man seeking a Christian woman to marry?
· Qusetion 2: Hillsong makes a false accusation that I SOLELY seek a Christian woman to marry. It is evident for everyone who is literate with an intellect that in all my correspondence with your Hillsong empire and any other church in Melbourne, that I always write the word ALSO. "ALSO". In my letter to you, my specific sentence was "I seek opportunities for authentic Christian fellowship where there ALSO are Christian singles." On what basis do you falsely accuse that I ONLY seek a Christian woman to marry?
You state: "We do not allow people to attend if we have any concern that they do not have the best interest of others at heart or insinuate any predatorial nature."
· Question 3: Hillsong is concerned (accuses) that (a) I do not have the best interest of others, and that (b) I have a predatory nature. On what basis do you accuse me of not having the best interest of others, and on what basis to you accuse me of a predatory nature? These are very serious accusations!
You declare: "Our church is NOT an environment for you (to do this)."
· Question 4: Please explain this statement. Are Christian single men and women not allowed to fellowship and build relationships in your Hillsong empire? Or, is Hillsong again stating that because of Torsten's self-inererst and predatory nature, Hillsong is not an environment for Torsten?
Furthermore, you make this very interesting statement, which is another satanic Hillsong lie; either as a product of your own mind or from another pastor-liar: “I also understand that you have visited several other like-minded churches in Melbourne where you have deliberately sought to be disruptive in meetings.”
· Question 5: From whom did you attain this understanding?
· Question 6: In which other church(es) have I deliberately sought to be disruptive in meetings? Please name the church. What did I do, or say, that was disruptive?
In no church meeting anywhere on earth have I ever been disruptive. Add to that your words “deliberately sought”, and you are clearly just another satanic lying pastor.
Shame on you satan-pastor!
Regards,
Torsten Nenzén
Date: |
Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:32:05 +1000 |
From: |
torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org> |
To: |
Tim Michael <tim.michael@volunteer.hillsong.com> |
CC: |
hillsong@hillsong.com, network@hillsong.com, breeanna.ironside@hillsong.com, ben.tam@hillsong.com, brett@hillsong.com, mandy_moo80@hotmail.com, annecowart@yahoo.com, brett.messer@gmail.com, bec.messer@gmail.com, jnamirthanathan@gmail.com, stephanie.bal@volunteer.hillsong.com, nigelkeegan@yahoo.com |
Subject: |
Re: Hillsong Connect Groups |
Hello Tim Michael,
It is God’s wisdom that I did not speak with you on a phone, so that your Hillsong evils with satanic accusations against my person could become evidence, in black on white, and could be exposed.
You make a lot of interesting statements and accusations.
You state: "It is very apparent that you are interested SOLELY be seeking a life partner for yourself."
· Question 1: Is there anything sinful or Biblically unethical in a never-married Christian man seeking a Christian woman to marry?
· Qusetion 2: Hillsong makes a false accusation that I SOLELY seek a Christian woman to marry. It is evident for everyone who is literate with an intellect that in all my correspondence with your Hillsong empire and any other church in Melbourne, that I always write the word ALSO. "ALSO". In my letter to you, my specific sentence was "I seek opportunities for authentic Christian fellowship where there ALSO are Christian singles." On what basis do you falsely accuse that I ONLY seek a Christian woman to marry?
You state: "We do not allow people to attend if we have any concern that they do not have the best interest of others at heart or insinuate any predatorial nature."
· Question 3: Hillsong is concerned (accuses) that (a) I do not have the best interest of others, and that (b) I have a predatory nature. On what basis do you accuse me of not having the best interest of others, and on what basis to you accuse me of a predatory nature? These are very serious accusations!
You declare: "Our church is NOT an environment for you (to do this)."
· Question 4: Please explain this statement. Are Christian single men and women not allowed to fellowship and build relationships in your Hillsong empire? Or, is Hillsong again stating that because of Torsten's self-inererst and predatory nature, Hillsong is not an environment for Torsten?
Furthermore, you make this very interesting statement, which is another satanic Hillsong lie; either as a product of your own mind or from another pastor-liar: “I also understand that you have visited several other like-minded churches in Melbourne where you have deliberately sought to be disruptive in meetings.”
· Question 5: From whom did you attain this understanding?
· Question 6: In which other church(es) have I deliberately sought to be disruptive in meetings? Please name the church. What did I do, or say, that was disruptive?
In no church meeting anywhere on earth have I ever been disruptive. Add to that your words “deliberately sought”, and you are clearly just another satanic lying pastor.
Shame on you satan-pastor!
Regards,
Torsten Nenzén
Date: |
Sat, 13 Apr 2013 12:05:52 +0000 |
From: |
Tim Michael <tim.michael@volunteer.hillsong.com> |
To: |
<torsten@nenzen.net> <torsten@nenzen.net> |
Subject: |
Re: Hillsong Connect Groups |
Hi Torsten,
It is a shame we aren't able to speak over the phone to clarify any of your questions. As a church who is, by nature, protective of all that attend our church we do not allow people to attend if we have any concern that they do not have the best interest of others at heart or insinuate any predatorial nature. From your emails and online communication, it is very apparent that you are interested solely be seeking a life partner for yourself. Like any of our other campuses, our church is NOT an environment for you to do this.
I also understand that you have visited several other like-minded churches in Melbourne where you have deliberately sought to be disruptive in meetings. As a result, I am writing to inform you that you do NOT have our permission to attend any of our gatherings or events at Hillsong Melbourne.
My personal hope is that you find understanding and peace in your heart and that this, in time, will be evident in the health of your relationships within the body of Christ.
Regards,
Tim Michael
Date: |
Sat, 13 Apr 2013 21:10:51 +1000 |
From: |
torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org> |
To: |
Tim Michael <tim.michael@volunteer.hillsong.com> |
Subject: |
Re: Hillsong Connect Groups |
Hi Tim Michael!
Thanks for contacting.
I seek opportunities for authentic Christian fellowship where there also are Christian singles. Because your organisation posted on your website some groups in and near Melbourne CBD with corresponding email addresses, I contacted those three. One person replied but then discontinued communication.
I don't have access to a telephone for voice calls.
Is there any Connect Group of your Hillsong Empire where also single Christians can meet and communicate - and build relationships?
Best regards,
Torsten Nenzén
Email: torsten@nenzen.net
Text messages: +46 707 77 77 54
Date: |
Sat, 13 Apr 2013 09:49:12 +0000 |
From: |
Tim Michael <tim.michael@volunteer.hillsong.com> |
To: |
torsten@nenzen.net <torsten@nenzen.net> |
Subject: |
Hillsong Connect Groups |
Hello Orsten,
I hope you are well. I understand you are interested in receiving some information about our Connect Groups and so I have been trying to call you. Could you please confirm your phone number, as the number provided does not seem to work. Can you also please let me know of a time when I can best speak with you?
Kind regards,
Tim Michael
Date: |
Sat, 13 Apr 2013 02:12:56 +1000 |
From: |
torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org> |
To: |
hillsong@hillsong.com, network@hillsong.com, breeanna.ironside@hillsong.com, ben.tam@hillsong.com, brett@hillsong.com, mandy_moo80@hotmail.com, annecowart@yahoo.com, brett.messer@gmail.com, bec.messer@gmail.com, jnamirthanathan@gmail.com, stephanie.bal@volunteer.hillsong.com, nigelkeegan@yahoo.com |
Subject: |
Hillsong Melbourne empire |
hillsong.com/melbourne Connect Groups,
Hi.
I am a Christian single man visiting here in Melbourne for several months to begin with. While I am here in Melbourne, I seek a Christian community where I also might find opportunities to fellowship, socialise, meet and talk with other Christian singles.
It seems rather obvious that no person in the Melbourne Hillsong wants to invite to fellowship.
Is there any Connect Group of your Hillsong Empire where also single Christians can meet and communicate - and build relationships?
Best regards,
Torsten Nenzén
Email: torsten@nenzen.net
Text messages: +46 707 77 77 54
Date: |
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:12:15 +1000 |
From: |
torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org> |
To: |
hillsong@hillsong.com, network@hillsong.com, breeanna.ironside@hillsong.com, ben.tam@hillsong.com, brett@hillsong.com, mandy_moo80@hotmail.com, annecowart@yahoo.com, brett.messer@gmail.com, bec.messer@gmail.com, jnamirthanathan@gmail.com, stephanie.bal@volunteer.hillsong.com, nigelkeegan@yahoo.com |
Subject: |
Hillsong Melbourne empire |
hillsong.com/melbourne Connect Groups,
Hi.
I am a Christian single man visiting here in Melbourne for several months to begin with. While I am here in Melbourne, I seek a Christian community where I also might find opportunities to fellowship, socialise, meet and talk with other Christian singles.
I tried unsuccessfully to establish useful communication with Brett Messer of your church.
Is there any Connect Group of your Hillsong Empire where also single Christians can meet and communicate - and build relationships?
Best regards,
Torsten Nenzén
Email: torsten@nenzen.net
Text messages: +46 707 77 77 54
Date: |
Fri, 12 Apr 2013 01:28:45 +1000 |
From: |
torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org> |
To: |
mandy_moo80@hotmail.com, annecowart@yahoo.com, brett.messer@gmail.com, bec.messer@gmail.com, jnamirthanathan@gmail.com, stephanie.bal@volunteer.hillsong.com, nigelkeegan@yahoo.com |
Subject: |
Hillsong Melbourne empire |
hillsong.com/melbourne Connect Groups,
Hi.
I am a Christian single man visiting here in Melbourne for several months to begin with. While I am here in Melbourne, I seek a Christian community where I also might find opportunities to fellowship, socialise, meet and talk with other Christian singles.
I tried unsuccessfully to establish useful communication with Brett Messer of your church.
Is there any Connect Group of your Hillsong Empire where also single Christians can meet and communicate - and build relationships?
Best regards,
Torsten Nenzén
Email: torsten@nenzen.net
Text messages: +46 707 77 77 54
Date: |
Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:26:10 +1000 |
From: |
torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org> |
To: |
mandy_moo80@hotmail.com, annecowart@yahoo.com, brett.messer@gmail.com |
Subject: |
Hillsong Melbourne |
hillsong.com/melbourne Connect Groups,
Hi.
I am a Christian single man visiting here in Melbourne for several months to begin with. While I am here in Melbourne, I seek a Christian community where I also might find opportunities to fellowship, socialise, meet and talk with other Christian singles.
I tried unsuccessfully to establish useful communication with Brett Messer of your church.
Is there any Connect Group of your Hillsong Empire where also single Christians can meet and communicate - and build relationships?
Best regards,
Torsten Nenzén
Email: torsten@nenzen.net
Text messages: +46 707 77 77 54
Date: |
Thu, 11 Apr 2013 01:18:28 +1000 |
From: |
torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org> |
To: |
Brett Messer <brett.messer@gmail.com> |
Subject: |
Hillsong Melbourne |
Hello Brett.
Thanks for sending an email and an SMS. I much appreciate the invite, although the information is useless in regards to connecting. You did not disclose the time and location of the connect group.
I did contact three groups from the list on http://hillsong.com/melbourne/. You are one of those three emails to groups in central Melbourne.
Which day, time, address and contact person for a group in central Melbourne?
Regards,
Torsten Nenzen
Date: |
Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:22:19 +1000 |
From: |
torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org> |
To: |
Brett Messer <brett.messer@gmail.com> |
Subject: |
Re: Hillsong Melbourne |
Hello Brett.
Thanks for sending an email and an SMS. I much appreciate the invite, although the information is useless in regards to connecting. You did not disclose the time and location of the connect group.
I did contact three groups from the list on http://hillsong.com/melbourne/. You are one of those three emails to groups in central Melbourne.
Which day, time, address and contact person for a group in central Melbourne?
Regards,
Torsten Nenzen
Date: |
Tue, 9 Apr 2013 13:46:27 +1000 |
From: |
Brett Messer <brett.messer@gmail.com> |
To: |
torsten@nenzen.net <torsten@nenzen.net> |
Subject: |
Re: Hillsong Melbourne |
Hi Torzen,
Welcome to Melbourne! Where exactly are you based at the moment, there are a number of connect groups in and around the city.
There are groups in different suburbs, as the church is just starting out we don't have many but happy to meet up on the weekend at church to say hi, and introduce you to some people.
I volunteer on the 9:30am service so could meet between the 9:30 and 11:30 if you'd like?
Thanks
Brett
Date: |
Tue, 09 Apr 2013 11:23:29 +1000 |
From: |
torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org> |
To: |
brett.messer@gmail.com, mandy_moo80@hotmail.com, annecowart@yahoo.com |
Subject: |
Hillsong Melbourne |
hillsong.com/melbourne Connect Groups,
Hi.
I am a Christian single man visiting here in Melbourne for several months to begin with. While I am here in Melbourne, I seek a Christian community where I also might find opportunities to fellowship, socialise, meet and talk with other Christian singles.
Are there opportunities in your Connect Group where also single Christians can meet and communicate - and build relationships?
Best regards,
Torsten Nenzén
Email: torsten@nenzen.net
Text messages: +46 707 77 77 54
Skype: blessisrael
Date: |
Tue, 09 Apr 2013 00:38:54 +1000 |
From: |
torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org> |
To: |
brett.messer@gmail.com, mandy_moo80@hotmail.com, annecowart@yahoo.com |
Subject: |
Christian relationships |
hillsong.com/melbourne Connect Groups,
Hi.
I am a Christian single man visiting here in Melbourne for several months to begin with. While I am here in Melbourne, I seek a Christian community where I also might find opportunities to fellowship, socialise, meet and talk with other Christian singles.
Are there opportunities in your Connect Group where also single Christians can meet and communicate - and build relationships?
Best regards,
Torsten Nenzén
Email: torsten@nenzen.net
Text messages: +46 707 77 77 54
Skype: blessisrael
Date: |
Sun, 07 Apr 2013 01:47:55 +1100 |
From: |
torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org> |
To: |
brett.messer@gmail.com, mandy_moo80@hotmail.com, annecowart@yahoo.com |
Subject: |
Christian relationships |
hillsong.com/melbourne Connect Groups,
Hi.
I am a Christian single man visiting here in Melbourne for several months to begin with. While I am here in Melbourne, I seek a Christian community where I also might find opportunities to fellowship, socialise, meet and talk with other Christian singles.
Are there opportunities in your Connect Group where also single Christians can meet and communicate - and build relationships?
Best regards,
Torsten Nenzén
Email: torsten@nenzen.net
Text messages: +46 707 77 77 54
Skype: blessisrael