Hillsong Church in London

Hillsong Church in London, United Kingdom

(http://www.hillsong.co.uk)

Hillsect Church in London, United Kingdom, is relationally possibly one of the most unhealthy congregation in London. Anyone who has visited the Hillsect London Church knows that this stage-focused hybrid of entertainment industry and superficial church culture breeds a “Christianity” that neither benefits authentic relationships nor society. Although the Sunday 6:30pm services at London’s Holy Trinity Brompton Church in Onslow Square is possibly the most superficial and unwelcoming fellowship in London (http://www.htb.org.uk), Hillsect London should take the prize for the most unhealthy church organization in London.

When I have visited churches in London I have normally inquired with people who I speak with which churches they have been part of previously, and why they chose to leave those churches. Every person that I have spoken with who left Hillsect London, have told me that they left Hillsect due to unsatisfactory relationships within that “church”. One person who I interviewed, with good insight from previous years within Hillsect London, affirmed an unhealthy Hillsect culture and its governance.

After three months of enquiring about opportunities for Christian fellowship, the Hillsect has in reality only offered invitations to concerts (usually expensive) and alcoholic parties at nightclub venues. When I visited their party at a Hillsect nightclub venue, their Hillsect members with their invited guests cued outside the nightclub venue, with four nightclub bouncers and security staff overlooking the cue. I asked one of the four nightclub security staff outside the nightclub if their venue was hired for Hillsong London, which it was. I then asked the organiser Hillsong London outside if there was going to be public alcohol consumption by Hillsong London inside the venue, whereupon the Hillsong organiser emphatically answered “Yes!”. I then politely told the Hillsong organiser outside the venue “Ok, I will skip this one.”, and immediately departed from the area.

I assess that Hillsect does more harm to the credibility of churches than they benefit church credibility.

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----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: breeanna.ironside@hillsong.com ; ben.tam@hillsong.com ; brett@hillsong.com ; london@hillsong.co.uk ; Admin@hillsong.co.uk ; paul.nevison@hillsong.co.uk ; Andrew.Cherrie@hillsong.co.uk ; Shaun.stuart@hillsong.co.uk ; Ewan.Cameron@hillsong.co.uk ; adrianpc@gmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:58 PM

Subject: Cowardly and devilish staff of Hillsect London

Hillsong London,

Hi.

I am a Christian single man visiting here in London for some time. I seek a Christian community where I also can find opportunities to fellowship, socialise, meet and talk with other Christian singles. Without interpersonal communication Christian relationships between opposite genders cannot emerge.

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate?

I understand there are so called Velocity Groups. How do I connect with a so called Velocity Group?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Text message: +46 707 77 77 54

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 1:07 AM

Subject: Cowardly and devilish staff of Hillsong London

Hillsong London,

Hi.

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate?

I understand there are so called Velocity Groups. How do I connect with a so called Velocity Group?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Text message: +46 707 77 77 54

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:30 AM

Subject: Cowardly and devilish staff of Hillsong London

Hillsong London,

Hi.

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate?

I understand there are so called Velocity Groups. How do I connect with a so called Velocity Group?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Text message: +46 707 77 77 54

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:34 AM

Subject: Cowardly and devilish staff of Hillsong London

Hillsong London,

Hi.

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate?

I understand there are so called Velocity Groups. How do I connect with a so called Velocity Group?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Text message: +46 707 77 77 54

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: london@hillsong.co.uk ; Admin@hillsong.co.uk ; paul.nevison@hillsong.co.uk ; Andrew.Cherrie@hillsong.co.uk ; Shaun.stuart@hillsong.co.uk ; Ewan.Cameron@hillsong.co.uk ; adrianpc@gmail.com

Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:13 PM

Subject: Cowardly staff of Hillsong London

Hillsong London,

Hi.

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate?

I understand there are so called Velocity Groups. How do I connect with a so called Velocity Group?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Text message: +46 707 77 77 54

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: london@hillsong.co.uk ; Admin@hillsong.co.uk ; paul.nevison@hillsong.co.uk ; Andrew.Cherrie@hillsong.co.uk ; Shaun.stuart@hillsong.co.uk ; Ewan.Cameron@hillsong.co.uk ; adrianpc@gmail.com

Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 11:49 AM

Subject: Cowardly staff of Hillsong London

Hillsong London,

Hi.

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate?

I understand there are so called Velocity Groups. How do I connect with a so called Velocity Group?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Text message: +46 707 77 77 54

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: london@hillsong.co.uk ; Admin@hillsong.co.uk ; paul.nevison@hillsong.co.uk ; Andrew.Cherrie@hillsong.co.uk ; Shaun.stuart@hillsong.co.uk ; Ewan.Cameron@hillsong.co.uk ; adrianpc@gmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 1:36 PM

Subject: Cowardly staff of Hillsong London

Hillsong London,

Hi.

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate?

I understand there are so called Velocity Groups. How do I connect with a so called Velocity Group?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Text message: +46 707 77 77 54

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: london@hillsong.co.uk ; Admin@hillsong.co.uk ; paul.nevison@hillsong.co.uk ; Andrew.Cherrie@hillsong.co.uk ; Shaun.stuart@hillsong.co.uk ; Ewan.Cameron@hillsong.co.uk ; adrianpc@gmail.com

Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:40 PM

Subject: Cowardly staff of Hillsong London

Hillsong London,

Hi.

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate?

I understand there are so called Velocity Groups. How do I connect with a so called Velocity Group?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Text message: +46 707 77 77 54

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: london@hillsong.co.uk ; Admin@hillsong.co.uk ; paul.nevison@hillsong.co.uk ; Andrew.Cherrie@hillsong.co.uk ; Shaun.stuart@hillsong.co.uk ; Ewan.Cameron@hillsong.co.uk ; adrianpc@gmail.com

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 12:15 PM

Subject: Christian relationships at Hillsong London

Hillsong London,

Hi.

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate?

I understand there are so called Velocity Groups. How do I connect with a so called Velocity Group?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Text message: +46 707 77 77 54

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: london@hillsong.co.uk ; Admin@hillsong.co.uk ; paul.nevison@hillsong.co.uk ; Andrew.Cherrie@hillsong.co.uk ; Shaun.stuart@hillsong.co.uk ; Ewan.Cameron@hillsong.co.uk ; adrianpc@gmail.com

Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 12:36 PM

Subject: Christian relationships at Hillsong London

Hillsong London,

Hi.

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate?

I understand there are so called Velocity Groups. How do I connect with a so called Velocity Group?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Text message: +46 707 77 77 54

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: london@hillsong.co.uk ; Admin@hillsong.co.uk ; paul.nevison@hillsong.co.uk ; Andrew.Cherrie@hillsong.co.uk ; Shaun.stuart@hillsong.co.uk ; Ewan.Cameron@hillsong.co.uk ; adrianpc@gmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:58 PM

Subject: Christian relationships at Hillsong London

Hillsong London,

Hi.

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate?

I understand there are so called Velocity Groups. How do I connect with a so called Velocity Group?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Text message: +46 707 77 77 54

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: Dan Blythe

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 11:59 PM

Subject: Re: Christian relationships at Hillsong London

Hi Dan Blythe!

Thanks for informing about two events. One event that focuses on the Olympic Games, and another event that focuses on Jazz music.

I am Christian, and I seek opportunities to communicate with other disciples of Jesus Christ in settings that enhance authentic communication. Are there any opportunities in Hillsong London to meet and build real and deep Christian relationships, without distractions of secular foci? Pubs, nightclubs, music parties and rave fests are not the types of settings that are conducive to authentic and deep Christian relationships.

Are there relationship-building opportunities in Hillsong?

Best regards,

Torsten Nenzen

----- Original Message -----

From: Dan Blythe

To: torsten@nenzen.net

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 3:15 PM

Subject: Re: Christian relationships at Hillsong London

Hi Torsten.

Dan Blythe here from VELOCITY. We have spoken before in regards to connect groups etc.

Our next event where you can meet other singles is this Friday. It is free entry. Below is the link:

http://www.facebook.com/events/471152919566042/?ref=ts

We also have a Jazz night on Wednesday August the 8th at Holborn House which is near Holborn Tube station.

We don’t have nights aimed just for singles. We create a relaxed atmosphere at our events so people can meet people in a natural way.

Many thanks

Dan Blythe Hillsong London Pastor

VELOCITY 25+ Community

www.facebook.com/velocitylondon

HILLSONG CHURCH LONDON

T: +44 (0) 2073849200

M: +44 (0) 7889 010372

Twitter:@danblythe8

e: dan.blythe@hillsong.co.uk

P.O. Box 29971, London, SW6 2WX

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: london@hillsong.co.uk ; Admin@hillsong.co.uk ; paul.nevison@hillsong.co.uk ; Andrew.Cherrie@hillsong.co.uk ; Shaun.stuart@hillsong.co.uk ; Ewan.Cameron@hillsong.co.uk ; adrianpc@gmail.com

Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 2:11 PM

Subject: Christian relationships at Hillsong London

Hillsong London,

Hi.

I am a Christian single man visiting here in London for some time. I seek a Christian community where I also can find opportunities to fellowship, socialise, meet and talk with other Christian singles. As many people understand; without interpersonal communication Christian relationships between opposite genders cannot emerge.

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate?

I understand there are so called Velocity Groups. How do I connect with a so called Velocity Group?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Text message: +46 707 77 77 54

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: Shaun.stuart@hillsong.co.uk

Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:45 AM

Subject: Fw: Christian relationships at Hillsong London

Hello Shaun Stuart,

Beneath is the background information.

Best regards,

Torsten Nenzen

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: Ewan Cameron

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 1:03 PM

Subject: Re: Christian relationships at Hillsong London

Hello Ewan,

Thanks. I will contact Dan Blythe and Shaun Stuart within a day or two.

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

----- Original Message -----

From: Ewan Cameron

To: torsten@nenzen.net

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 12:40 PM

Subject: Re: Christian relationships at Hillsong London

Hi Torsten

Dan's mobile is 07889010372.. He will be able to give you the information you require regarding Velocity.

Shaun Stuart looks after Connect groups . His mobile is 07908115803.. He will find you a suitable connect group in your area… so give him a call.

Regards

Ewan

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: Ewan Cameron

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 10:44 AM

Subject: Re: Christian relationships at Hillsong London

Hillsong London

Hello Ewan Cameron,

Thanks for a reply.

The information that you have provided in your response is identical to the information found on your website, so there is no new information, or information that is useful for establishing time and location of meetings, which is what I asked (Email sent to you on Sunday June 10).

When and where are your meetings called “Velocity”? http://www.hillsong.co.uk/churchlife/velocity/ Please ask your Dan Blythe to inform me of time and location.

How do people connect to “Connect Groups”? http://www.hillsong.co.uk/churchlife/connectgroups/

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

----- Original Message -----

From: Ewan Cameron

To: torsten@nenzen.net

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 10:11 AM

Subject: Re: Christian relationships at Hillsong London

Hi Torsten,

The three main areas for connection at Hillsong are (1) at church on a Sunday (2) as part of a mid week connect group and (3) serving on team.

As well we have different social events for Velocity ( 25-35 years)… If you are part of that age bracket I can introduce you to Dan Blythe( Pastor for Velocity) and he can fill you in as to how to get involved.

We also have " Exchange" on a Wednesday night which is for new people in church to attend… details are on the website.

Your emails tend to focus on relationships with ' single Christian females". Just to make it quite clear- We are a church NOT a dating service.

The best way to start building a relationship in my experience ( all 55 years of it) is to initiate dialogue not send emails back and forth.

So if you are serious about wanting to meet people( not just the females) in church please call me and we can discuss ( I have called your mobile but no one picks up…)

Ewan

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: Ewan Cameron

Cc: breeanna.ironside@hillsong.com ; london@hillsong.co.uk ; paul.nevison@hillsong.co.uk ; Admin ; ben.tam@hillsong.com ; brett@hillsong.com

Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:17 PM

Subject: Christian relationships at Hillsong London

Hello Ewan Cameron,

Are there opportunities in Hillsong London where also single Christians can meet, talk, and build relationships?

The onsite theatre-people referred to Hillsong London website does not reveal necessary informations required to establish time and location of for example the online mentioned "Velocity" and "Connect Groups".

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: Ewan Cameron

Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 5:18 PM

Subject: Re: Christian relationships at Hillsong London

Hi Ewan Cameron,

Thanks for inviting me to a cup of coffee and dialogue with you. However, speaking with church leaders is not within my realm of interest, unless the church leader is a never-married single Christian female.

Are there opportunities in Hillsong London where also single Christians can meet, talk, and build relationships?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

----- Original Message -----

From: Ewan Cameron

To: torsten@nenzen.net

Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:10 AM

Subject: Re: Christian relationships at Hillsong London

Hi Torsten,

Thanks for your email.

Rather than sending emails back and forth why don't we meet for a coffee and discuss the matters you have raised.

I'm available this Sunday after the 1st service say around 11.30am if that suits you.

Regards

Ewan

07515796637

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: Ewan Cameron

Cc: breeanna.ironside@hillsong.com ; london@hillsong.co.uk ; paul.nevison@hillsong.co.uk ; Admin

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 2:36 AM

Subject: Christian relationships at Hillsong London

Hillsong London,

Hi Ewan.

On your website http://www.hillsong.co.uk I cannot identify any useful information pertaining to activities that could benefit relationship building. The minimum information required to avail a meeting of any sort are always: time and location.

Since there is no person in Hillsong London who wants to provide those minimum informations (time and location), neither the office staffs online nor members on site at the theatre, I suggest that we have a look together at your website, beneath.

http://www.hillsong.co.uk/calendar/ “What’s on”

Here, there is no information about time and location for events with opportunity or an emphasis towards relationship-building, interpersonal communication or socialising.

http://www.hillsong.co.uk/churchlife/velocity/ “Velocity”

Here, there is no information about time and location for events with opportunity or an emphasis towards relationship-building, interpersonal communication or socialising.

http://www.hillsong.co.uk/churchlife/connectgroups/ “Connect Groups”

Here, there is no information about time and location for events with opportunity or an emphasis towards relationship-building, interpersonal communication or socialising.

If you don’t mind, please explain your assurance that “everything is on the website”. Where on your website?

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Text message: +46 707 77 77 54

----- Original Message -----

From: Ewan Cameron

To: torsten@nenzen.net

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 1:20 PM

Subject: Re: Your email

Hi Torsten,

Thanks for your email.

We place a high priority on relationship building within Hillsong church and there is certainly nothing secretive about information on any social events happening… everything is on the website.

I will be in the foyer before the 9.30am service on Sunday and would be more than happy to discuss further.

Regards

Ewan

Pastor – Hillsong London

07515796637

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: Admin

Cc: breeanna.ironside@hillsong.com ; london@hillsong.co.uk ; paul.nevison@hillsong.co.uk

Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 6:12 PM

Subject: Re: Christian relationships

Hillsong London,

Hi.

I visited your church again last Sunday June 3 at 9:30 am. After the service, I asked some people where people of your church socialise, and was informed about two coffee places nearby. There, I continued to investigate where people in your church socialise, and received general nonsense propaganda replies. One of your church members said that I would receive information only from the official front desk at the entrance to the theatre. Another church member referred to one of the superiors of the church, who after some time approached me and informed me that I can receive information about the church from the church website. Your hierarchical and somewhat secretive organisation has provided no useful information.

I am a Christian single man visiting here in London for some time. I seek a Christian community where I also can find opportunities to fellowship, socialise, meet and talk with other Christian singles. As many people understand; without interpersonal communication Christian relationships between opposite genders cannot emerge.

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Text message: +46 707 77 77 54

----- Original Message -----

From: Admin

To: torsten@nenzen.net

Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 6:01 PM

Subject: Re: Christian relationships

Hi Torsten,

Thank you for your email, I'm sorry for the late reply.

I'm afraid we don’t currently have a singles ministry, the best way to meet people would probably be to get connected into church life and connect group and go from there..

Please give me a call on 02073849200 or email me if you would like to talk about connecting into church life…

Kind Regards

Louise

----- Original Message -----

From: torsten@nenzen.net

To: Breeanna Ironside ; ben.tam@hillsong.com ; brett@hillsong.com ; NYC@hillsong.com ; london@hillsong.co.uk ; paul.nevison@hillsong.co.uk ; admin@hillsong.co.uk

Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 1:47 AM

Subject: Christian relationships

Hillsong London,

Hi.

I am a Christian single man visiting here in London for some time. I seek a Christian community where I also can find opportunities to fellowship, socialise, meet and talk with other Christian singles. As many people understand; without interpersonal communication Christian relationships between opposite genders cannot emerge.

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet?

I have contacted Hillsong London twice the past weeks through http://www.hillsong.co.uk/contact, and I have filled in a contact card with two specific questions written on it which I placed in the offering basket. Hillsong London has refused to respond to the online messages and has ignored the filled visitor card with questions.

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Text message: +46 707 77 77 54