2016-10-30

Satanic and pathologically lying global sect “Hillsong London” in London, United Kingdom, evicted and banished a Christian who is absolutely innocent in relation to each excommunication by all of Hillsong’s churches worldwide, and is absolutely innocent also to this particular Hillsong “church” in London. Hillsong London evicted the innocent Christian from their public Sunday ‘service’ in their church’s rented premises, and falsely promised to investigate why Torsten is banned by Hillsong globally. As anticipated, London Hillsong’s pathologically lying pastors lied to Torsten. HillSect London absolutely refused to answer any questions; relating to Brian Houston’s enforced anti-Torsten policy, and their Hillsong Network global ban against Torsten. Hillsong’s national Pentecostal corporation “Assemblies of God Great Britain” and Hillsong’s international Pentecostal association “World Assemblies of God International”, likewise, passively endorsed Hillsong’s global anti-Torsten policy and ban.

(http://hillsong.com/uk/centrallondon)

(http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Stockholm_Andreas-Nielsen_Sweden.htm)

(http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong_refusal_to_repent_from_lies_slander_persecution.htm)

(http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Brisbane_Artie-Shepherd_Australia.htm)

(http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Brisbane.htm)

(http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Noosa_Bevan-Russell_Australia.htm)

(http://www.kyrkor.be/Ann-Street-Church-of-Christ-Brisbane.htm)

(http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Church-Hobart-Tasmania-Australia.htm)

(http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Melbourne.htm)

(http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Melbourne-commitment-to-excommunication.htm)

(http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Sydney-Australia.htm)

(http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Brisbane.htm)

(http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-London.htm)

(http://www.kyrkor.be/Tokyo-Lifehouse-Church-Japan.htm)

(http://www.kyrkor.be/Lifehouse-International-Church-Hong-Kong.htm)

One of several distinctions of satanic pastors of churches is an obsession to persecute God’s people, and to never repent. Satan is incapable of repentance, and so also are satan’s pastors of churches incapable to repent from their obsessive persecution against God’s people.

Of all societal institutions in nations of Western civilisation, churchianity is the pinnacle of hypocrisy. The archetypically lying and manipulative pastors of the Hillsong empire and their pastors of HillSect London, senior pastor Gary Clarke and pastors Sam & Ian Anonymous, are epitomes of such churchianity hypocrisy. In practice, satan is their Hillsong nature.

HillSect London declares on its public website (http://hillsong.com/uk/centrallondon) that “We look forward to welcoming you in church this Sunday!”, but of course reality differs from the falsehood of HillSect public statements. Not everyone is welcome. Torsten is especially not welcome. Similar to all HillSect pastors globally, also the HillSect London pastors have no respect for truth, love or justice. The HillSect entertainment-business churchianity brand have consistently demonstrated that truth, love and justice are irrelevant. Ultimately, HillSect respects only HillSect. When Torsten has visited other HillSect campuses worldwide, all HillSect churches have obeyed Brian Houston’s anti-Torsten dictates and hence evicted and banished Torsten. And when Torsten has inquired with the evicting and banishing HillSect pastors why they have banished Torsten, none has provided any reality-based or Biblical reason, and all have refused further communication.

Torsten’s objectives with his visit to the HillSect London staged entertainment-business churchianity on Sunday July 24, 2016, were to seek reaffirmation of HillSect London’s banishment against Torsten, and to inquire of a reality-based or Biblical reason for their HillSect global banishment against Torsten. London’s HillSect pastors, Sam & Ian Anonymous, orally promised to investigate a reason for Hillsong’s global ban against Torsten, and promised to contact Torsten regarding their investigation results. As anticipated, the HillSect pastors in London lied. The HillSect pastors absolutely refused to contact Torsten, absolutely refused to reply to Torsten’s repeated email inquiry, and absolutely refused to provide any investigation results.

The British Pentecostal corporation “Assemblies of God Great Britain” (http://www.aog.org.uk), which represent more than 500 Pentecostal churchianity industries in United Kingdom, and which is irrelevant to truth, justice or love, and which is disconnected from reality and from Biblical praxis, passively approved their lying London Hillsong’s eviction and persecution against Torsten. Identically, the global Pentecostal umbrella organisation “World Assemblies of God Fellowship” (http://worldagfellowship.org) passively endorsed the lying Hillsong’s anti-Torsten policy and praxis. Hillsong in London absolutely refused to provide any reality-based reason or any Biblical reason for their Hillsong global ban against Torsten. Hillsong is instead preoccupied with slandering against Torsten to other churches of various denominations - behind Torsten’s back. Torsten is entirely innocent of any wrongdoing in relation to any church on earth. Pastors’ fantasies and pastors’ maliciously invented lies constitute the base and substance of the churches’ satanic persecution against Torsten.

Bible-believing real Christians, however, discern the falsehoods of HillSect: https://hillsongchurchwatch.com

Consistent information from various sources globally confirm that Hillsong Network of Churches practice a global anti-Torsten policy, entailing a global Hillsong banishment against the person Torsten:

http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Church-Hobart-Tasmania-Australia.htm

Torsten: "And what is the reason why you're asking me to leave?"

Kent Medwin: "It is our policy at this stage that you are not free to attend services."

http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Brisbane_Artie-Shepherd_Australia.htm

Torsten: "Why am I banned from all ... Is it global is it?"

Artie Shepherd: "It's any Hillsong Church."

Torsten: "All over the world?"

Artie Shepherd: "Yup."

In all HillSect churches worldwide where Torsten has visited, the HillSect pastors have banned Torsten. When Torsten has asked these HillSect pastors why they have banned Torsten, none of the HillSect pastors have been able to provide a reality-based reason.

http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong_refusal_to_repent_from_lies_slander_persecution.htm

Artie Shepherd: "If you actually want to talk to someone about this properly ..."

Torsten: "I do."

Artie Shepherd: "... then we can make a time to meet During the week and explain that. Ok?"

Hillsong London eviction, United Kingdom, on July 24, 2016

Torsten entered through the open front doors to the building of Dominion Theatre on Tottenham Court Road in central London, which on Sundays is rented by the manipulative and deceptive “pentecostal” sect Hillsong London. The doors to the premises were wide open and people were entering. Torsten stepped over the door threshold into the HillSect premises and stopped a few meters inside the entrance hall. One female greeter quickly approached Torsten. Torsten presented a very brief synopsis and asked if Torsten was welcome to visit at Hillsong London. The HillSect greeter stated that she would go and ask someone to come and speak with Torsten. Torsten remained in one location and waited. Eventually, the female greeter approached Torsten again and invited Torsten with a wave of the hand to come closer to the exit doors. Torsten indicated to the female greeter that Torsten preferred that the appointed person(s) instead would come the place where Torsten was standing. Torsten did not move. Eventually two males approached Torsten. Torsten then held out his already audio-recording mobile phone towards the chests of the two HillSect men standing adjacent and opposite to Torsten.

Partial Transcript of Audio Recording:

Selected transcriptions of the audio recording of HillSect pastor Sam Anonymous and pastor Ian Anonymous inside London HillSect’s Sunday rented premises, Dominion Theatre in central London, United Kingdom, on July 24 2016.

(MP3 Audio): http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-London-eviction-160724.mp3

TORSTEN:   I just want to get to the bottom; What’s the reason for this global ban?

SAM:   When you say ‘your person’, what was the reason?

TORSTEN:   That’s what I want to know.

SAM:   What would your person be? When you say ‘my person’ what are they referring to?

TORSTEN:   This is what I don’t know and that is why I want to know: Why am I not welcome?

SAM:   I am guessing there is something going on that you have not said so far. That has got to be the only reason.

TORSTEN:   Well, is it possible to find out? Cause I would really like to know; What am I accused of? And what is the reality basis for those accusations?

SAM:   What are you accused of? What were you banned for?

TORSTEN:   This is what I want to know: Why am I banned?

[Torsten handed over Torsten’s card with Torsten’s full name and personal contact details.]

TORSTEN:   Who is the person in hierarchy that is above you that would be able to answer that question? You don’t seem to know.

SAM:   At the moment I can’t answer the question because you don’t tell me why.

TORSTEN:   I want to know why?

IAN:   Have they given you a reason?

TORSTEN:   There has never been a reality-based reason, and there has never been any Biblical reason, so I want to know: What is the reality-based reason for this? This is made clear from the headquarters in Sydney. They made it clear to Hillsong in Brisbane that I am banned. It has been confirmed by Hillsong in Hobart as well that there is a global policy that I am not welcome to any of the Hillsong campuses globally.

IAN:   That sounded like you know a reason but you don’t believe there’s a Biblical reason.

TORSTEN:   I don’t know what is the reality-based reason. What are the specific accusations against my person? What is the reason? It has already been confirmed that there is a global ban. And I would like to know why.

SAM:   What’s the global ban – be it global or Biblical? What’s the reason you have been given?

TORSTEN:   There hasn’t been give a reality-based reason.

SAM:   What is the reason – whether you agree with it or Biblical?

TORSTEN:   I actually emailed repeatedly to find out - what is the reason. Because I continue to ask, to email, for provision of a reason, that is why I am here today. Because if you’re not responding to email … I want to know why.

SAM:   I can’t give you a reason. I’m confused.

TORSTEN:   Sam and Ian; The person that is above you in the hierarchy here in London, can you please ask that person: Why is Torsten banned?

SAM:   I can ask. But they will say the same as me. Cause not wanting to cause any unnecessary friction, you still haven’t told me what Sydney and Brisbane gave as a reason. They would never just say. I don’t believe you.

TORSTEN:   Actually, this is what I did in Brisbane as well. They said, if you want to talk about it, if you want to know more, let’s set up a meeting during the week. So I contacted and asked; let’s have that meeting while I am here in Brisbane. Tell me, I want to know why there is a global ban against my person. And – they also refused to give a reason. A reality-based reason. So this is why I’m here. I want to know a reality-based reason. You say you don’t know. So, can you please ask higher up in the hierarchy here in London to find out. I want to know why.

SAM:   I can’t do that because this conversation is not making sense.

TORSTEN:   Well. Let me be very clear. It is confirmed that there is a global ban against me that I am not allowed to visit any services on any Hillsong campus or any Hillsong Family related service anywhere in the world.

SAM:   This is because?

TORSTEN:   This is my question to you. Why?

SAM:   Did you do something?

TORSTEN:   That’s exactly my question; Did I do something? What am I accused of?

SAM:   It feels like there’s something you’re not saying.

TORSTEN:   I’m sorry that you feel like. There is something that Hillsong is not saying, because I have repeatedly asked. And Sam, that’s why I’m asking you: Who is the person that is in charge of Hillsong in London?

SAM:   My answer still stands: this doesn’t make sense to me. It doesn’t feel like we’re getting anywhere. Because unless I were to ring Sydney or ring Brisbane, which I’m not gonna do …

TORSTEN:   Well, why not? You can call them. It’s eight hours … they’re gonna be open.

SAM:   Because so far what can I say to them? I’ve met a guy. Whose name? He says he has been banned but he won’t tell me why.

TORSTEN:   They will know my name. They know my name.

SAM:   So this is what makes me … there’s something has happened.

TORSTEN:   Something has allegedly happened. I’d like to know - what? What is the accusation?

SAM:   What has allegedly happened? Do you know?

TORSTEN:   Please tell me. What is Hillsong accusing me of? Why does Hillsong have a global ban against my person?

IAN:   Like you, I’m still confused. Cause I get the feeling you know a reason but you don’t believe that to be real reason.

TORSTEN:   Well, can you please tell me the real reason?

IAN:   Oh I don’t know.

TORSTEN:   Can you please ask the person that is in charge here at Hillsong?

SAM:   Until I’m satisfied there’s a reason, that there is no other reason whether you agree with it or not, the conversation would make as much sense to them as it would to me.

TORSTEN:   No, actually what they did in all other campuses, they did exactly as you suggested; What if I call to Sydney? Well that’s what they did. And Sydney confirmed that I am banned. Only two weeks ago I was kicked out of the Hillsong in Stockholm. And so, I wanna know why? And I have repeatedly asked their pastor, called Andreas Nielsen, why? And he refuses to answer the email. And that’s why I step into your location to ask: Please give me the reason why.

SAM:   Where are you from? Stockholm, Sweden?

TORSTEN:   I grew up in Canada, so Canada is sort of my cultural identity. But my residence is in Sweden.

SAM:   And you’ve asked not to go to Brisbane, to Sydney, to any?

TORSTEN:   Well, this has actually been confirmed. So we know it is a fact, that there is a global ban against my person on all Hillsong campuses. This is a fact! I would like to know; What is the reality-based reason for this policy?

SAM:   I can’t give you that at the moment. We’re still going around in circles. But, if you know there’s a ban against you – be it real – be it not real- be it for a reason – be it not for a reason – there’s a reason. I don’t know why you’ve come here today.

TORSTEN:   I’ve said that repeatedly. The reason I’m here today is because Hillsong …

[Pastor “Sam Anonymous” interrupted Torsten.]

SAM:   … I’ve also said repeatedly: What’s the reason? Because human logic does not say that you would be banned for no reason.

TORSTEN:   Well, in that case, please tell me the reason. I want to know …

SAM:   And again, we’re going around in circles.

TORSTEN:   Well then, can you please call …

SAM:   No.

TORSTEN:   Ok – ask your pastor.

SAM:   I am a pastor.

TORSTEN:   Ok. Who is the person above you? Who is in charge here in London?

SAM:   He’s my boss. Because I’m not getting what I need from you I’m not going any higher than this because it’s a waste of his time. I don’t mean to be rude. I don’t mind continuing this conversation right here, but so far it’s going around with: Why am I banned? Well what reason have you been given? Well, no reality-based. Which sounds like a dodge – you’ve been given a reason but you don’t wanna say, or you don’t. Cause if you banned for a reason, a legitimate reason, there would be no problem putting that in an email. So that’s why I wanna know why they, they … yeah I just don’t …

TORSTEN:   Well, in that case we’re at least wondering the same thing: Why did they not? If there is a legitimate reason there would be no problem addressing that in an email. But they have not. So, yeah, this is the reason why I’m here.

IAN:   How about we do this? Today, if you’re telling me you’ve been banned globally. Now you’ve told me. Then yeah, it probably wouldn’t be the best thing if you come in here today. Now I know, I wouldn’t feel comfortable doing that. And, uhm, you’ve come at a difficult time as it’s busy just before conference week. So for all of Europe they’re all focusing on conference. But, I can do my own phone call or whatever. I’m not saying that … yeah I don’t know … I’m still confused.

TORSTEN:   Alright.

SAM:   This is your name and number?

TORSTEN:   Yeah, so you have all my … ‘Torsten Nenzen’. Those are all my contact details.

TORSTEN:   Am I not allowed to enter today, or?

SAM:   Based on what you’ve told me, I’d feel uncomfortable letting you in, yeah.

TORSTEN:   Alright. Would you like to, now that you confirm that I am not welcome today, you would like to do a little exploration; Would you please contact the person that is in charge, ahead of you, above you, to respond in an email and give me clarity regarding the reality-based reason …

SAM:   If anyone responds in an email it will be the appropriate person, but I can’t bother to …

TORSTEN:   Who is that appropriate person?

SAM:   If you were to get onto our website and find out who the lead pastors for our church here in London are, it’s Gary and Cathy Clarke. Everyone will know that. The appropriate person? It may be me. It may be someone else. I don’t yet know that. Cause from what you’re saying so far, it may have weight to it, or it may be that you’re not who you say you are, or there is no reason in which case this is more confusing. But, that I think the best way to deal with it today, is to go.

IAN:   I find that. London churches are huge churches. You can come in and go anonymously. But you find that wherever you go, you raise these accusations. And I don’t think that’s healthy. You know you could have just come in here and no one would have known. I think that would apply anywhere.

TORSTEN:   Well you see. I’m not gonna be – I’m not that type of person. You know there’s gotta be: right is right, and wrong is wrong. And if I am wrongly accused and kicked out, and I know there’s a global ban, you know, there’s two ways to deal with it. Because I know it’s wrong, there’s only one way out of it, and that’s for Hillsong Headquarters to apologise and say “We were wrong. There is no basis whatsoever.” That’s the only way out. And, until that happens, I’m gonna keep asking: Give me the reality-based reason. And that’s why I’m here. I’m not gonna sneak in here! I’m gonna be upfront. If this is what the other Hillsong churches tell me? Fine. But I wanna know the reasons. And if you have no reason then I want Hillsong to acknowledge that and say “We made a mistake. We made a horrible mistake.”

SAM:   I can’t promise what we’re gonna go away and come back to you with. But today what I’m gonna do is go and do my own investigation into what you’re asking.

TORSTEN:   Alright. As an agreement, I will go away as you feel uncomfortable. Fair enough. As part of that agreement I want you to promise me that you will contact me and give me the reasons.

SAM:   I promise I’ll contact you, but I may or may not give reasons, depending on how my investigations go. That’s all I can say.

TORSTEN:   That’s not fair. Do I not deserve a reason?

[Pastor “Sam Anonymous” curtly interrupted Torsten.]

SAM:   [partially inaudible because Sam interrupted Torsten] … is based on a logical argument, but I don’t feel that your argument is logical.

TORSTEN:   Well, do I not deserve a reason for the banishment? That is reality-based?

SAM:   Yes, if you haven’t been given one that is legitimate, but so far, you’re not giving me what I’m asking for. So I’m quite as happy to remain non-committed to you as you remain with me.

TORSTEN:   When will you respond? What time frame?

SAM:   I don’t know. It depends on response I get.

IAN:   It is a busy week, isn’t it. With all due respect to you as an individual, this week.

SAM:   We’re not at the office this week. We’re at the O2 meeting at the conference. So this week I might be in the office We’re at the O2. The week after that we have a week off. The week after that we’re back in the office. But, we’ve got phones so we see what I can do.

TORSTEN:   Alright. Sam. Thank you for asking … I feel that you’re [not] being entirely [honest] … you’re keeping putting the ball back on me that I should know, but I’m here to ask why. And I think, reasonably, if you are Bible-affirming Christians, then you should feel the onus of giving me a reality-based reason for the policy. And if there is no reality-based reason then Hillsong should acknowledge a mistake.

SAM:   Alright. Thank you for that.

TORSTEN:   Cheers.

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The email monologue with Hillsong London, United Kingdom, is read chronologically beneath in ascending order, with the most recent email at the top:

Hillsong London.

Senior Pastor Gary Clarke, Pastors Sam & Ian Anonymous,

On Sunday, July 24, 2016, in conjunction with your advertised general public invitation to attend at your Hillsong church-business staged entertainment inside your rented premises at Dominion Theatre in central London, your Hillsong pastors (Pastor Sam & Pastor Ian) declared that I was unwelcome and evicted me from your church-business premises.

I had asked Pastor Sam & Pastor Ian to provide to me a reality-based and a Biblical reason for your Hillsong global banishment against my person, but neither Pastor Sam nor Pastor Ian was at that time able to provide any reason for the worldwide Hillsong banishment against me. I therefore asked the evicting Hillsong pastors in London, Pastor Sam & Pastor Ian, to contact me by email to inform me of a reality-based reason and a Biblical reason for the Hillsong worldwide banishment against me. Pastor Sam Anonymous orally promised that he would investigate a reason for the Hillsong global ban against me, and that he would contact me.

The evicting Hillsong pastors (Pastor Sam Anoymous & Pastor Ian Anonymous) of Hillsong Central London has yet not contacted me, and has yet not provided any reality-based reason for Hillsong’s worldwide anti-Torsten policy and global banishment against Torsten. Pastor Sam Anonymous was handed my card of personal contact details.

Consistent information from various sources globally confirm that Hillsong Network of Churches practice a global anti-Torsten policy, entailing a global Hillsong banishment against the person Torsten:

http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Church-Hobart-Tasmania-Australia.htm

Torsten: "And what is the reason why you're asking me to leave?"

Kent Medwin: "It is our policy at this stage that you are not free to attend services."

http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Brisbane_Artie-Shepherd_Australia.htm

Torsten: "Why am I banned from all ... Is it global is it?"

Artie Shepherd: "It's any Hillsong Church."

Torsten: "All over the world?"

Artie Shepherd: "Yup."

In all HillSect churches worldwide where Torsten has visited, the HillSect pastors have banned Torsten. When Torsten has asked these HillSect pastors why they have banned Torsten, none of the HillSect pastors have been able to provide a reality-based reason.

http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong_refusal_to_repent_from_lies_slander_persecution.htm

Artie Shepherd: "If you actually want to talk to someone about this properly ..."

Torsten: "I do."

Artie Shepherd: "... then we can make a time to meet During the week and explain that. Ok?"

Questions:

(1) On what reality-based and Biblical grounds has Hillsong Network of Churches globally banished me?

(2) What sin or ill-doing is Hillsong Network of Churches accusing me of?

1.             http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Stockholm_Andreas-Nielsen_Sweden.htm

2.             http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong_refusal_to_repent_from_lies_slander_persecution.htm

3.             http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Brisbane_Artie-Shepherd_Australia.htm

4.             http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Noosa_Bevan-Russell_Australia.htm

5.             http://www.kyrkor.be/Ann-Street-Church-of-Christ-Brisbane.htm

6.             http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Church-Hobart-Tasmania-Australia.htm

7.             http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Melbourne.htm

8.             http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Melbourne-commitment-to-excommunication.htm

9.             http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Sydney-Australia.htm

10.         http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Brisbane.htm

11.         http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-London.htm

12.         http://www.kyrkor.be/Tokyo-Lifehouse-Church-Japan.htm

13.         http://www.kyrkor.be/Lifehouse-International-Church-Hong-Kong.htm

Kind regards,

Torsten Nenzén

torsten@nenzen.net

Hillsong London.

Pastor Sam Anonymous and Pastor Ian Anonymous,

On Sunday, July 24, 2016, in conjunction with your advertised general public invitation to attend at your Hillsong church-business staged entertainment inside your rented premises at Dominion Theatre in central London, your Hillsong pastors (Pastor Sam & Pastor Ian) declared that I was unwelcome and evicted me from your church-business premises.

I had asked Pastor Sam & Pastor Ian to provide to me a reality-based and a Biblical reason for your Hillsong global banishment against my person, but neither Pastor Sam nor Pastor Ian was at that time able to provide any reason for the worldwide Hillsong banishment against me. I therefore asked the evicting Hillsong pastors in London, Pastor Sam & Pastor Ian, to contact me by email to inform me of a reality-based reason and a Biblical reason for the Hillsong worldwide banishment against me. Pastor Sam Anonymous orally promised that he would investigate a reason for the Hillsong global ban against me, and that he would contact me.

The evicting Hillsong pastors (Pastor Sam Anoymous & Pastor Ian Anonymous) of Hillsong Central London has yet not contacted me, and has yet not provided any reality-based reason for Hillsong’s worldwide anti-Torsten policy and global banishment against Torsten. Pastor Sam Anonymous was handed my card of personal contact details.

Consistent information from various sources globally confirm that Hillsong Network of Churches practice a global anti-Torsten policy, entailing a global Hillsong banishment against the person Torsten:

http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Church-Hobart-Tasmania-Australia.htm

Torsten: "And what is the reason why you're asking me to leave?"

Kent Medwin: "It is our policy at this stage that you are not free to attend services."

http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Brisbane_Artie-Shepherd_Australia.htm

Torsten: "Why am I banned from all ... Is it global is it?"

Artie Shepherd: "It's any Hillsong Church."

Torsten: "All over the world?"

Artie Shepherd: "Yup."

In all HillSect churches worldwide where Torsten has visited, the HillSect pastors have banned Torsten. When Torsten has asked these HillSect pastors why they have banned Torsten, none of the HillSect pastors have been able to provide a reality-based reason.

http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong_refusal_to_repent_from_lies_slander_persecution.htm

Artie Shepherd: "If you actually want to talk to someone about this properly ..."

Torsten: "I do."

Artie Shepherd: "... then we can make a time to meet During the week and explain that. Ok?"

Questions:

(1) On what reality-based and Biblical grounds has Hillsong Network of Churches globally banished me?

(2) What sin or ill-doing is Hillsong Network of Churches accusing me of?

1.        http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Stockholm_Andreas-Nielsen_Sweden.htm

2.        http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong_refusal_to_repent_from_lies_slander_persecution.htm

3.        http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Brisbane_Artie-Shepherd_Australia.htm

4.        http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Noosa_Bevan-Russell_Australia.htm

5.        http://www.kyrkor.be/Ann-Street-Church-of-Christ-Brisbane.htm

6.        http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Church-Hobart-Tasmania-Australia.htm

7.        http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Melbourne.htm

8.        http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Melbourne-commitment-to-excommunication.htm

9.        http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Sydney-Australia.htm

10.      http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-Brisbane.htm

11.      http://www.kyrkor.be/Hillsong-London.htm

12.      http://www.kyrkor.be/Tokyo-Lifehouse-Church-Japan.htm

13.      http://www.kyrkor.be/Lifehouse-International-Church-Hong-Kong.htm

Kind regards,

Torsten Nenzén

torsten@nenzen.net

Hillsong London.

Pastor Sam Anonymous and Pastor Ian Anonymous,

On Sunday, July 24, 2016, in conjunction with your advertised general public invitation to attend at your Hillsong church-business staged entertainment inside your rented premises at Dominion Theatre in central London, your Hillsong pastors (Pastor Sam & Pastor Ian) declared that I was unwelcome and evicted me from your church-business premises.

I had asked Pastor Sam & Pastor Ian to provide to me a reality-based and a Biblical reason for your Hillsong global banishment against my person, but neither Pastor Sam nor Pastor Ian was at that time able to provide any reason for the worldwide Hillsong banishment against me. I therefore asked the evicting Hillsong pastors in London, Pastor Sam & Pastor Ian, to contact me by email to inform me of a reality-based reason and a Biblical reason for the Hillsong worldwide banishment against me. Pastor Sam Anonymous orally promised that he would investigate a reason for the Hillsong global ban against me, and that he would contact me.

The evicting Hillsong pastors (Pastor Sam Anoymous & Pastor Ian Anonymous) of Hillsong Central London has yet not contacted me, and has yet not provided any reality-based reason for Hillsong’s worldwide anti-Torsten policy and global banishment against Torsten. Pastor Sam Anonymous was handed my card of personal contact details.

Questions:

(1) On what reality-based and Biblical grounds has Hillsong Network of Churches globally banished me?

(2) What sin or ill-doing is Hillsong Network of Churches accusing me of?

Kind regards,

Torsten Nenzén

torsten@nenzen.net

Hobart Hillsong Church.

Hello Hillsong Senior Pastor Kent Medwin,

Based on beneath provided evidential facts, there are some questions which, if you would claim to be a follower of Jesus Christ, you would be morally obligated to answer. This is also the opportunity for you to review the narrative with transcript and present objections if any part would appear inaccurate.

By one email to Hobart Hillsong Church, I had declared my objective to seek opportunities to fellowship and socialise with also Christian singles. It is evident by your oral statement that yours and Hillsong’s counter-objective was to excommunicate and evict, and thus obstruct all opportunities of communication with presumed Christians. My objective is Biblical and Godly. Hillsong’s and your objective is anti-Biblical and satanic.

In your conversation that you forced upon me upon my first time visit to your Hobart Hillsong church, requesting that I must leave your church premises due to some Hillsong anti-Torsten policy, you made some statements which need explanations. You are Biblically obligated to provide a Biblical and a reality-based reason for your eviction and excommunication against me, if you would assert to be a Christian.

Questions which I request that you answer:

(1) You and your eviction-accomplices had never met me prior to my first visit to your church premises on Nov.22, 2015.

- How did you and your eviction-accomplices know what I look like?

(2) Why did you refuse to identify yourself with a surname?

(3) You stated “You’ve had conversations before?” and “I understand that you’ve visited some other campuses in the past and had conversations.”

- What do you mean by ‘conversations’?

- Would I have conversed with someone in particular?

- Would I have conversed about some special topic?

- Explain ‘conversations’ !

(4) You declared that it is your policy that I am not permitted to attend any services: “It is our policy at this stage that you are not free to attend services […] our policy relation to your attendance at this stage.”

- Is your or Hillsong’s anti-Torsten policy formulated, instructed and circulated? Please cite exactly the Hillsong anti-Torsten policy!

- Who invented the anti-Torsten policy?

- Is this anti-Torsten policy Hobart-invented, or is this anti-Torsten policy globally applicable and officially instructed by the Hillsong empire?

- What is your or Hillsong’s Biblical or reality-based reason for this anti-Torsten policy?

- Of what am I guilty? Of what is Hillsong accusing me?

(5) You falsely declared “You would understand the reasons why that you’re not free to attend service.” All Hillsong churches have refused to provide any Biblical or reality-based reason for their decisions to excommunicate.

- What are the reasons why I am not free to attend services at your Hobart Hillsong or at any Hillsong church globally?

(6) In your evasive response to my question to you “What is your reason [for excommunication] apart from saying it’s about policy?” you articulated a non-answer “That is my reason. I don’t know the details, um, of your story. But I do know there is good reason why. You, you, you … I, I, I trust the reasons.”

- Since you say that you know that there is good reason for all Hillsong churches to have an anti-Torsten policy in effect, then why did you not state the reason?

- What are the reasons for all Hillsong churches to have an anti-Torsten policy in effect?

(7) In response to my question to you “Who instructed you to tell me to leave?”, I believe that you might have said something similar to these words: “We all got a from chief correspondent, saying that you’ve been asked not attend other campuses, and eh, should you attend, um, then, the situation is the same here.”

- Who is ‘WE’ in “We all got…”?

- Who is the ‘chief correspondent’? Is this person named Brian Houston?

- Who instructed you to tell me to leave?

Description of events at Hillsong Hobart Church:

On Sunday 2015-11-22 Torsten visited Hobart Hillsong Church for the first and last time. Torsten had intended to attend an advertised public so-called “service” at 11:15am. Torsten arrived at the church premises at 10:51am. First, Torsten briskly walked past the church premises once along the adjacent sidewalk to quickly assess the property and structure, then Torsten immediately turned back to enter through one of the front iron gates. Torsten walked in direction towards a Hillsong uniformed man who stood by himself along a cemented path, appearing to keep watch. Torsten asked the uniformed Hillsong volunteer “Is there an 11:15 service?” The man answered affirmatively and with words welcomed Torsten to join for their refreshment at the rear outdoor courtyard. Torsten walked to the rear outdoor courtyard where a group of approximately 25 people were gathered. Torsten stood still by himself – observing. Torsten noticed a suspicious movement by a middle-aged lightly obese man who at first was engaged in company with three other persons near him, but then the man set his eyes on Torsten for a moment before he dashed off inside. A short moment later (~10:53am) the man came back outside, and walked across to the opposite side of the courtyard where he had been standing earlier. One minute later (~10:54am), two men came out of the building and walked straight towards Torsten and stopped in front of Torsten. One of the two men (Kent Medwin) spoke to Torsten that he knew who Torsten is. By the style of approach, by the unfriendly tone of voice and by the man’s fore-knowledge of Torsten’s name, Torsten predicted an eviction and therefore, Torsten promptly took out his mobile phone from his pocket, commenced an audio-recording and stretched his mobile phone out halfway towards the approaching man’s chin. The conversation with the approaching man (Kent Medwin) was recorded and transcribed, as beneath.

Audio recording of Senior Pastor Kent Medwin as he evicts a Christian who is absolutely innocent of any wrongdoing in any Hillsong church anywhere, or in any other church on earth:

(MP3):  http://www.kyrkor.be/Hobart-Hillsong-Church-Kent-Medwin-151122.mp3

(AMR):  http://www.kyrkor.be/Hobart-Hillsong-Church-Kent-Medwin-151122.amr

Transcript of audio recording:

TORSTEN:    I’m recording.

KENT MEDWIN:   Yes. So. You’ve had conversations before? With our team as family?

TORSTEN:   Actually I’m the first time on this …

KENT MEDWIN:   Hobart Campus

TORSTEN:   Hobart

KENT MEDWIN:   But I understand that you’ve visited some other campuses in the past and had conversations.

TORSTEN:   I have tried to visit other Hillsong campuses. You’re David right?

KENT MEDWIN:   No.

TORSTEN:   What’s your name?

KENT MEDWIN:   My name is Kent.

TORSTEN:   Kent?

KENT MEDWIN:   And I understand that you’ve been asked not to attend some campuses in the past. Is that the case?

TORSTEN:   Eh. All… eh… Hillsong that I visited everywhere … everywhere, excuse me I lose my voice, All campuses that I have visited, everywhere in the world, has asked me to leave.

KENT MEDWIN:   Yeah. Unfortunately, um, we need to ask you to leave as well.

TORSTEN:   What is the reason Kent?

KENT MEDWIN:   Um. That as our policy relation to your attendance at this stage.

TORSTEN:   ok. And what is the reason why you’re asking me to leave?

KENT MEDWIN:   It is our policy at this stage that you are not free to attend services.

TORSTEN:   ok

KENT MEDWIN:   So, um, we’d ask you to please leave.

TORSTEN:   ok. Kent – who are you?

KENT MEDWIN:   My name is Kent.

TORSTEN:   yeah

KENT MEDWIN:   I’m the pastor here at campus in Hobart.

TORSTEN:   ok. Who are you, Kent? You look after the campus. Who are you?

KENT MEDWIN:   My name is Kent. I look after the campus here in Hobart.

TORSTEN:   You look after the campus. What position? What is your role?

KENT MEDWIN:   I oversee the campus here in Hobart.

TORSTEN:   ok. Do you have a clergy role? Or, what is your role?

KENT MEDWIN:   I look after the campus here in Hobart.

TORSTEN:   Do you have a last name Kent?

KENT MEDWIN:   yeah I do

TORSTEN:   ok. What’s your last name?

KENT MEDWIN:   My name is Kent, and I look after the campus here, and I’m asking you to please leave.

TORSTEN:   ok. But what is your authority? What is your personal role? What is your identity? What is your name?

KENT MEDWIN:   My name is Kent and I’m asking you to please leave. Are you refusing to leave?

TORSTEN:   What is your role?

KENT MEDWIN:   Are you refusing to leave?

TORSTEN:   What is your authority to ask me to leave?

KENT MEDWIN:   I’m the senior person here in Hobart. Are you refusing to leave?

TORSTEN:   Well I don’t know. Are you like the pastor, the warden, or?

KENT MEDWIN:   Yeah, I’m the most senior person here in Hobart. And I’m asking you to please leave. You have been asked to leave other Hillsong campuses around the world.

TORSTEN:   ok. Can I ask your last name Kent?

KENT MEDWIN:   My last name? I don’t see the relevance of it? I’m easy enough to find. But … but I’m not quite sure why you make difficult given that you would understand the reasons why that you’re not free to attend service.

TORSTEN:   ok. I will leave Kent. But I would like you to tell me what is your reason, apart from saying it’s about policy?

KENT MEDWIN:   That is my reason. I don’t know the details, um, of your story. But I do know there is good reason why. You, you, you … I, I, I trust the reasons.

TORSTEN:   Can I ask: Who instructed you to tell me to leave?

KENT MEDWIN:   Ah. Yowe. The um. We all got a from [wind disturbing clarity of audio recording] chief correspondent, saying that you’ve been asked not attend other campuses, and eh, should you attend, um, then, the situation is the same here.

TORSTEN:   ok. Who gave you that instruction?

KENT MEDWIN:   Well, I’m gonna ask you to leave now please. And if you refuse I’m gonna call the police. That’s your choice.

TORSTEN:   ok. Can I ask you: Who instructed you to eh …

KENT MEDWIN:   Are you refusing to leave?

TORSTEN:   I just told you, I’m about to leave.

KENT MEDWIN:   I’m asking you to please leave. I’m asking you to please leave now or I’m gonna call the police.

TORSTEN:   Yes, you can call the police. Make it official first. Just make the call first.

KENT MEDWIN:   yup

TORSTEN:   Just make the call first.

KENT MEDWIN:   Are you refusing to leave?

TORSTEN:   I didn’t say that.

KENT MEDWIN:   This is private property and are you refusing to leave?

TORSTEN:   No, I … [Kend Medwin angrily interrupts.]

KENT MEDWIN:   I’m asking you to leave. You’re either leaving now or you’re refusing to leave.

TORSTEN:   I just told you I’m about to leave. I’m just asking … [Kend Medwin angrily interrupts.]

KENT MEDWIN:   I’m gonna call the police now that you’re trespassing, or you’re gonna leave now because I’m asking you to please leave our property.

TORSTEN:   I just told you I’m about to leave.

KENT MEDWIN:   Then please let’s walk together.

TORSTEN:   Do you want to tell me, just … [Kent Medwin began to escort towards the church gate , and while Torsten walks too Torsten turns attention to one of Kent Medwin’s eviction accomplices who had stood silently next to Kent Medwin during conversation.] … Who are you by the way?

DAVID:   My name is David?

TORSTEN:   David. And what is your role?

DAVID:   Ahh … I … [inaudible]

TORSTEN:   Are you a pastor?

DAVID:   No.

TORSTEN:   Ok. What is your role?

KENT MEDWIN:   [Kent, David and Torsten had walked towards the front gate, where Kent Wedwin turned around to take charge of the conversation.] We’re asking you to leave please.

TORSTEN:   OK. And with what authority are you asking me to leave?

KENT MEDWIN:   I’m the senior person here at the Hobart room. We’re asking you to leave. You’re trespassing on our property. We’re asking you to please leave.

TORSTEN:   Mm. And, as you can see we just walked 20 meters.

KENT MEDWIN:   You are free to stand here. This is public property.

TORSTEN:   I am standing on public property at this very moment.

KENT MEDWIN:   You are free to stand here.

KENT MEDWIN:   There’s nothing more that we need to say to you.

TORSTEN:   Who instructed you by the way?

[The facial expression on Kent Medwin at that moment, while Torsten stood on the sidewalk outside Hobart Hillsong’s closed metal gate and Kent Medwin stood on the step above behind the chest-high gate looking down onto Torsten, spoke everything about who governs the mind of Hillsong’s Senior Pastor Kent Medwin. Kent Medwin smirked scornfully at Torsten with a pleasured satisfaction. That facial expression unmistakably revealed Kent Medwin’s satanic attitude, and maybe also his spiritual nature.]

TORSTEN:   You’re smiling like a devil.

[Kent Medwin began to walk away. Torsten turned 90 degrees and saw two persons looking at Torsten. Torsten recognised one of the two persons as a person with whom Torsten had spoken in conjunction with Torsten’s daily street evangelism in Hobart CBD. Torsten and the other man walked towards each other simultaneously.]

TORSTEN:   I’m recording. I just want to ask a few questions.

Person X1:   Ok?

TORSTEN:   Who is Kent? What’s his last name? Kent. … They just …

[Person X1 turned his head to look in the direction of Kent, and then appeared perplexed by the situation; possible feeling insecure about revealing anything. Kent Medwin stood at a distance and looked in the direction to Torsten. Kent Medwin’s evicting accomplice David then walked quickly towards Person X1 & Person X2, signalling to them to leave Torsten and to not speak with Torsten. Person X1 walked away from Torsten. Person X2 spoke to Torsten before he too departed.]

TORSTEN:   Hi there.

Person X2:   How are you?

TORSTEN:   Yeah, I’m fine.

Person X2:   Good to see you.

TORSTEN:   yeah

Person X2:   This is our worship.

TORSTEN:   ok, yeah. I’ve been excommunicated from Hillsong.

[Torsten saw Kent Medwin’s evicting accomplice David trying to persuade Person X2 to stop talking to Torsten.]

TORSTEN:   yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah … They’re asking me to leave. Who is Kent? What’s his last … Who is Kent?

[Standing on the other side of the fence, Person X2 spoke authoritatively a typical church-cliché at Torsten, possibly in complete psychological denial of the information of excommunication that Person X2 had just been presented with. Kent Medwin’s evicting accomplice David persisted to signal up close to Person X2 to move away from Torsten.]

Person X2:   Why don’t you come to church and worship with us?

TORSTEN:   Ohhh, right.

[Also Person X2 moved away from Torsten. As all persons had departed from Torsten, Torsten departed from the sidewalk outside Hillsong Hobart. While Torsten was walking away, Torsten commented for the audio recording.]

TORSTEN:   He just said “Why don’t you come to church and worship with us.” just as I have been excommunicated. That’s the falsehood, and the deceptiveness, and the evil – the satanic nature of Hillsong. Over and out.

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Hobart Hillsong Church.

Hi.

I am a Christian here in Hobart. I seek a Christian community in Hobart where I could find opportunities to fellowship and socialise with also Christian singles.

Are there occasions of fellowship in your congregation where also mixed single Christians in the age bracket 30-39 (maybe also late 20’s) gather and communicate? Are there fellowship groups, community groups, cell groups or small groups in your church where to also develop friendships?

Best regards,

Torsten Nenzén

torsten@nenzen.net