Devilish Anglican “St Thomas North Sydney Church” in Sydney, Australia, excommunicated an excommunicated Christian who is absolutely innocent in relation to all excommunications. Devilish Anglican St Thomas church threatened to evict the innocent Christian by immediately calling for Police assistance if Torsten ever were to visit their church premises, and threatened to report as spam any attempt by Torsten to communicate with their Anglican church staff. Exactly like other excommunicating churches, also this Anglican church refused to provide a reason for their excommunication of Torsten.

(http://www.st-thomas.org.au)

The devilish Anglican “church” St Thomas North Sydney excommunicated Torsten, who is absolutely innocent in relation to every excommunication by churches, with a threat that St Thomas pastors would to approach Torsten in the same manner as satanic Anglican St Barnabas Church in Sydney, Australia (http://www.kyrkor.be/St-Barnabas-Anglican-Church.htm). In other words, St Thomas Anglican Church pastors threatened that if Torsten were to ever visit their church premises, then the devilish St Thomas Anglican Church pastors also would walk around and warn everyone inside their church building, pointing their pastoral finger at Torsten, saying to everyone “That is Torsten. I have asked him to leave. The police is coming to escort him. Don’t talk to him!”, which is exactly what the senior pastor of Anglican St Barnabas Church did. And, St Thomas Anglican Church threatened that if Torsten ever were to attempt to communicate with their church staff, also the St Thomas Church staff have been ordered by their pastor to report any email from Torsten as spam against Torsten’s email server, which is exactly what the St Barnabas Anglican senior pastor had ordered all his staff. And St Thomas Anglican Church would immediately call the police to evict Torsten from the church building if Torsten ever were to visit any of their church’s public meetings.

The devilish Anglican pastor of St Thomas Anglican Church in Sydney, Australia threatened with these words:

“I ask you to not attend any St Thomas’ church gatherings, or make any further contact with myself or other church staff. If you do our approach will be the same as you have experienced at St Barnabas Broadway and St Andrew's Cathedral.”

The second devilish Anglican “church” that St Thomas Anglican Church evidently has pledged its unconditional allegiance with is St Andrews Cathedral in Sydney, Australia (http://www.kyrkor.be/St-Andrews-Anglican-Cathedral.htm). These allegiances of devilish Anglican churches are more important to the Anglican churches than truth, justice and God. It is obvious that nothing in universe is more important to the Anglican churches than Anglican collegial loyalty; at the expense of truth, justice and God.

The dialogue with St Tomas Anglican Church in Sydney, Australia is read chronologically from the bottom upwards beneath, with the most recent email at the top:

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St Thomas’ Anglican Church North Sydney

Your church has requested that I must never attend any of St Thomas Anglican church gatherings. You have also demanded that I must never make any further contact with you as the pastor, or contact any of your Anglican church staff. And you threaten that if I were to ever contact you, or if I were to ever visit your Anglican church, then your approach would be similar to the satanic approaches of other Anglican churches in Sydney. I therefore understand that also your Anglican “church” has officially excommunicated me, and that if I were to ever visit your church, you would immediately call the NSW Police Force to have me evicted from your church premises, and that if I ever were to email to you, you would not reply but would report my email message to you as spam. Is this correctly understood?

You and your Anglican St Thomas church did not provide a reason for your excommunication against me. Is it not an ethically obligatory procedure to provide a reason for excommunication from church? Of what am I guilty deserving your excommunication from church? If you are unable to provide a justifiable reason for your excommunication against me, then you are sinning against me and sinning against God.

Why have you excommunicated me?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzén

Torsten,

I have recently discovered your website. I ask you to not attend any St Thomas’ church gatherings, or make any further contact with myself or other church staff. If you do our approach will be the same as you have experienced at St Barnabas Broadway and St Andrew's Cathedral.

Gerard

Hi Gererad O'Brien,

Thanks for presenting clearly stated answers to my questions.

Firstly, I appreciate the fact that you actually answered. This fact, that you bothered to answer anything, distinguishes you from approximately 80% of all pastors.

Secondly, I appreciate the fact that you present a systematic rationale for your perceived ecclesiastical role as a pastor. The attitude and demeanour of a pastoral role determines its justification.

Thirdly, I appreciate that you attempt to support your statements with Bible verses. The Judeo-Christian Bible is authoritative for Christian doctrine and Christian life -- not the mere words and opinions of "pastors".

If you do not mind, may I please lead you on to my phase three, from which I could decide if meeting with you (so that you can check your concerns) would be fruitful.

I want to attend a Small Group for the primary reason of Christian fellowship. One of my hoped outcomes of Christian fellowship is a Christian marriage. Fellowship was not part of your list of examples of "good reasons" for entering Small Groups. In your perception, is Christian fellowship a good reason to attend Small Groups? In your reply, please consider this stated fact that Christian Fellowship is my primary reason for attending any meetings offered by churches; including Small Groups.

Additionally, in your reference to Heb.13:17 pertaining to submission of leaders, what are your specific expectations of people's submission to you? When you as a "pastor" sin, and someone addresses your sin to you, what do you do? When someone edifies you as the "pastor" from Scriptures, or when someone corrects your errant views, words or conduct, what do you do?

Best regards,

Torsten Nenzen

torsten@nenzen.net

Hi Torsten,

The rationale behind wanting to meet you is that, as pastors we are concerned to keep watch over the flock entrusted to our care (Acts 20:28, Heb. 13:17). While our Sunday meetings are open to everyone - whether they are a believer or an unbeliever, male or female, old or young etc., we want to know who is entering our Small Groups to ensure they are there for good reasons (e.g. a friend brought them to introduce them to Christ, they want to learn from the Bible, grow in godliness and use their gifts out of love, for the good of the body (if they’re a believer) (1 Cor. 12:4) etc.). Generally people are happy to meet with a pastor so they can learn more about Christianity (if they’re an unbeliever who has started coming to church) or so they can know whether this is a pastor they could submit to (Heb. 13:17) (if they are a believer interested in joining).

Of course, there are even times when we would not welcome people to our Sunday gatherings (e.g. we discover that someone who claims to be a believer is engaged in unrepentant sexual immorality (1 Cor. 5:13), they are seeking to lead the flock astray (Matt. 5:15-19), they are divisive / contentious (Rom. 16:17), etc.).

So before we would place you in a Small Group, we would want to meet you and know a bit more about you.

Kind regards,

Gerard

Hi Gerard,

I intend to visit on a Sunday.

Just so that I can know your mindset with a confirmation, can you please inform me about the rationale of your church's methodology regarding individuals required to attain pastoral permission to attend fellowship in small groups. Because it is your church's requirement that a pastor first must approve an individual to be permitted to attend a small group, what are the pastor's requirements on the individual who seeks such permission to attend a small group? Do you have a small check-list of requirements? What is specifically required by a pastor for an individual to attend a small group?

Best regards,

Torsten

Hi Torsten,

Small Groups are where a group of people (around 10-12) meet weekly to read the Bible, pray and share life. We encourage authentic relationships based on the love, grace and forgiveness God has shown us in Christ. Despite this, we know that we still sin and so unfortunately are not a perfect community (still longing for the resurrection here!)

The best way to get into a Small Group would be to get to know one of the pastors (Chase, Gav or me) and we can place you in one. I’d be happy to chat after church on Sunday or catch up some time during the week for a coffee.

Kind regards,

Gerard

Hi Gerard O'Brien,

Thanks for replying. I appreciate that. You are actually the only person from St Thomas who has replied.

Because of your good invitation, I may very well visit the 5pm service primarily to see if it is an opportunity for real Christians to authentically communicate with each other.

I am not interested to talk about other small groups, but I am interested to attend other small groups - if the small groups encompass opportunities for people to communicate with each other and to build relationships.

Regarding other small groups, was there something that you wanted to say? Are there small groups that I can attend?

Best regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Hi Torsten,

Thanks for getting in touch with us. I’m not sure if anyone else replied to your email, but I’m sorry I’m responding a bit late. All of our church services are open to anyone to attend. You are welcome to come to any of them. As far as demographics go, the youngest service is our 5pm service, with a large proportion being uni students and young workers (although again - everyone is welcome). I’d be happy to meet up for coffee sometime if you would like to talk more about other groups we run at St Thomas’ (including Small Groups).

Kind regards,

Gerard

Dear St Thomas North Sydney Church,

Hi.

I am a Christian single man here in Sydney. I seek a Christian community in Sydney where I also might find opportunities to fellowship, socialise, meet and talk with other Christian singles.

Are there opportunities in your congregation where also single Christians can meet and communicate - and build relationships?

Are there fellowship groups, community groups, cell groups or small groups that I can attend?

Best regards,

Torsten Nenzén

Email: torsten@nenzen.net