Devilish “St Andrews Anglican Cathedral” in Sydney, Australia, excommunicated a Christian single man because he is interested in opposite-gender Christian marriage. St Andrews Cathedral discourages Christian relationships and Christian marriages within their “church”, but outsources Christian relationships to profiteering pseudo-Christian companies. Real Christians are thwarted from fellowship, while the typical church subculture of falsehood is supported.

(http://www.sydneycathedral.com)

One of the most prominent churches in Sydney, Australia, St Andrews Anglican Cathedral, excommunicated an innocent Christian man from fellowship, because he is interested in Christian marriage. The pastor of St Andrews Cathedral refused to answer questions, refused to argue for his vain discouragement of honest communication among churchpeople, but instead the Anglican Cathedral is thwarting of real relationships, and the Anglican Cathedral pastors refused to communicate further with Torsten.

The dialogue with Awesome Church in Sydney, Australia is read chronologically from the bottom upwards beneath, with the most recent email at the top:

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St Andrews Anglican Cathedral in Sydney,

Why am I excommunicated from fellowship at St Andrews Cathedral?

At which internet company are the St Andrews Cathedral singles permitted to talk to each other?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzén

St Andrews Anglican Cathedral in Sydney,

Why am I excommunicated from fellowship at St Andrews Cathedral?

At which internet company are the St Andrews Cathedral singles permitted to talk to each other?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzén

St Andrews Anglican Cathedral in Sydney,

At which internet company are the St Andrews Cathedral singles permitted to talk to each other?

Do you excommunicate all Christians who seek Christian heterosexual marriage, or do you only excommunicate Torsten?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzén

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

St Andrews Anglican Cathedral in Sydney,

At which internet company are the St Andrews Cathedral singles permitted to talk to each other?

Do you excommunicate all Christians who seek Christian heterosexual marriage, or do you only excommunicate Torsten?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzén

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

St Andrews Anglican Cathedral in Sydney,

At which internet company are the St Andrews Cathedral singles permitted to talk to each other?

Do you excommunicate all Christians who seek Christian heterosexual marriage, or do you only excommunicate Torsten?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzén

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Short text message: +46 707 77 77 54

Skype: blessisrael

St Andrews Anglican Cathedral in Sydney,

At which internet company are the St Andrews Cathedral singles permitted to talk to each other?

Do you excommunicate all Christians who seek Christian heterosexual marriage, or do you only excommunicate Torsten?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzén

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Short text message: +46 707 77 77 54

Skype: blessisrael

St Andrews Anglican Cathedral in Sydney,

At which internet company are the St Andrews Cathedral singles permitted to talk to each other?

Do you excommunicate all Christians who seek Christian heterosexual marriage, or do you only excommunicate Torsten?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzén

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Short text message: +46 707 77 77 54

Skype: blessisrael

St Andrews Anglican Cathedral in Sydney,

At which internet company are the St Andrews Cathedral singles permitted to talk to each other?

Do you excommunicate all Christians who seek Christian heterosexual marriage, or do you only excommunicate Torsten?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzén

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Short text message: +46 707 77 77 54

Skype: blessisrael

St Andrews Anglican Cathedral in Sydney,

At which internet company are the St Andrews Cathedral singles permitted to talk to each other?

Do you excommunicate all Christians who seek Christian heterosexual marriage, or do you only excommunicate Torsten?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzén

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Short text message: +46 707 77 77 54

Skype: blessisrael

St Andrews Anglican Cathedral in Sydney,

At which internet company are the St Andrews Cathedral singles permitted to talk to each other?

Do you excommunicate all Christians who seek Christian heterosexual marriage, or do you only excommunicate Torsten?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzén

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Short text message: +46 707 77 77 54

Skype: blessisrael

St Andrews Anglican Cathedral in Sydney,

Your St Andrews Cathedral excommunicated me, because I seek Christian heterosexual marriage.

Additionally, your St Andrews Cathedral declared that your church has decided to refuse to communicate with me. Is that God’s way? Is that Christlikeness? No, it is not.

Your St Andrews Cathedral decided to excommunicate me from church fellowship by reason that pursuit of Christian marital relationships are undesirable in your church. You do not want Christian marriage outcome from within your church. You regard heterosexual relationships that might lead to marriage as something bad. Heterosexual relationships that might lead to marriage is such a bad thing, that persons who seek heterosexual marriage are excommunicated from your church.

Your St Andrews Cathedral refuses to explain your contradictory statements about, on the one hand promoting passiveness of Christian singles hoping for marriage in association with real Christians inside churches, while on the other hand promoting proactivity of Christian singles hoping for marriage in association with pseudo-Christian internet companies. The consequence of your church’s practice to outsource reality is exactly what I wrote: real Christian life is not permitted to be part of your church organisation. Falsehood is nurtured and rewarded in your St Andrews Cathedral subculture. Your Anglican church promotes a subculture of falsehood

And, since Christian singles are discouraged (absolutely forbidden to Torsten) from speaking with each other in your church subculture, your church also refuses to specify the particular internet company where Christian singles are permitted to speak to each other.

At which internet company are the St Andrews Cathedral singles permitted to talk to each other?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzén

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Short text message: +46 707 77 77 54

Skype: blessisrael

Hi Torsten

My original answers, advice and suggestions still stand and they are perfectly plain and simple in meaning. You have taken extreme, negative and incorrect meanings from them, and for that I cannot do anything about it. Therefore I have nothing further to add to my last response. From my brief experience with you, I expect you will answer back and demand that I respond to you. I will simply not do that.

I wish you well and pray for a change in your heart and understanding of fellowship and forgiveness.

Regards

James

St Andrews Anglican Cathedral in Sydney,

(http://www.sydneycathedral.com)

Thanks for your email response to my oral inquiry subsequent to my visit inside your church building the other day. When I asked the staff inside your church building if there were opportunities in your church where Christians can fellowship, your staff reacted as a typical churchperson negatively to the word fellowship, but this church staff inside your church assured me that there were small groups that I could join. I then assured the staff inside your church that I was confident that I would never become invited to your church precisely because I am a real Christian, and I also said that I guesstimated the chance of rejection by your church as 98%. God and I were right, again.

Mr. James Chik of St Andrews Cathedral followed up on my visit inquiry by sending an email to me, to which I replied with a clarification, and to which James Chik clarified the position of St Andrews Cathedral in Sydney. I guess that St Andrews Cathedral is one of the largest Anglican churches and hierarchically one of the more influential Anglican congregations in Sydney and in the state of NSW. Would that guess be somewhat accurate?

Mr. James Chik stated several interesting churchy remarks, which leads me to inquire further about the doctrine of St Andrews Anglican Cathedral:

1 - Mr Chik stated that St Andrews Cathedral does not support, but discourages fellowship which may result in relationships.

2 - Mr Chik stated that St Andrews Cathedral, above everything else, encourages people to seek contentment in singlesness. Remaining a content single is, above all, one of the most important practices of your Anglican church.

3 - Mr Chik stated that if any person were by God intended for marriage, St Andrews Cathedral is certain that the obvious opportunity would come to that person. Indirectly, St Andrews Cathedral therefore states, that if a person is by God intended towards marriage, that person ought to do nothing except await that obvious opportunity.

4 - Mr Chik further stated: “There are Christian dating websites where their sole purpose is for Christian people to find such relationships. I encourage you to use those instead.”

It seems that your St Andrews Cathedral statement 3) which promotes passiveness, contradicts your statement 4) which promotes proactivity. Please explain this apparent contradiction.

Also, it seems that your St Andrews Cathedral outsources Christian relationships to non-Christian companies, pseudo-Christian companies, and politically correct and heretical “Christian” companies. In essence, your St Andrews Cathedral states that your churchpeople are discouraged by you to become real Christians. You do not support churchpeople to be real with their lives, but you do support that people take their realities elsewhere. It seems obvious, that Christianity is merely a theory at St Andrews Cathedral, and that real Christian life is not to become part of your church organisation. It seems that your Anglican church promotes a subculture of falsehood. In other words, your Anglican church does not endorse real Biblical Christianity for real people, but your St Andrews Cathedral promotes bullsh*t-Christianity for false people.

Knowing through your email response that Christian fellowship, Christian relationships, Christian marriages and Christian families are discouraged and thwarted by St Andrews Cathedral, but that real life is outsourced to online companies, may I therefore please inquire to which particular company you are referring people to?

Please answer.

Thanks.

Regards,

Torsten Nenzén

Email: torsten@nenzen.net

Short text message: +46 707 77 77 54

Skype: blessisrael

Hi Torsten

I'm afraid we will not be able to help you with that.

Church is the place where we worship God and share in fellowship together, and that may result in people forming relationships. But forming such relationships is not to be the purpose for people coming to church.

While I appreciate your candidness in explaining your intention, we do not encourage or support such motives.

There are Christian dating websites where their sole purpose is for Christian people to find such relationships. I encourage you to use those instead.

Above all, I encourage you to seek personal godliness and contentment in your singleness. For it is God who decides whether you should be married or single. Since you are single at the moment, you may as well work out what's the best way to serve God as a single person. And if God so intends for you to be married, I'm sure the obvious opportunity would come.

Regards

James

To: James Chik <jameschik@sydney.anglican.asn.au
From: Torsten Nenzén <torsten@nenzen.net
Date: 06/11/2013 06:12PM
Subject: Re: Bible Study Group

Hi James Chik,

Thanks for a response. In your response you inquired if I am interested to join a men's group.

I am a Christian male. I would like opportunities to fellowship with also other young adult Christian females, and youngish adult Christian females, who also are single. Therefore, a men's group is not of interest.

Are there opportunities in your church where also single Christians of opposite genders can meet and communicate with each other?

Regards,

Torsten Nenzen

Hi Torsten

Thankyou for calling in at the Cathedral today. Our bookshop assistant told me you're interested in joining a Bible study group. Would you like to join a men's group? I can send your details to the Bible study leaders and have them contact you.

Regards

James Chik
Administrator
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St Andrew's Cathedral
Sydney Square, Sydney, NSW 2000, Australia
PO Box Q190, QVB Post Office, NSW 1230, Australia
P:  +61 2 9265 1658
F:  +61 2 9264 6532
www.SydneyCathedral.com