A satanic alliance of pastors and church-leaders in Melbourne, Australia, persuaded a network for “Christian” young adults to excommunicate an innocent Christian without a reason, and banned the innocent Christian from attending any of their gatherings.

(http://www.facebook.com/events/101294786722193/?ref=22)

 

 

 

Satan governs many of the churches in Melbourne through alliances of pastors and ministry leaders who prioritise collegial loyalty at the expense of God, love, truth, and justice. The evils of many (perhaps even most) church-pastors in Melbourne are a testimony to how satan has hijacked many churches, also in Melbourne.

 

Two churches in Melbourne suggested that I should contact a network for “Christian” young adults in Melbourne via facebook. I contacted the Melbourne network via email and inquired when and where they would gather. The “Christian” network, which is recommended by Melbourne churches, replied initially that I was welcome to attend, but only two days later without further communication with me, the network changed its mind and declared instead that I was not welcome to attend any social function with them. The Melbourne network asserted that their social gatherings were an inappropriate environment for me. The Melbourne “Christians” think, in other words, not so much that their social functions are an inappropriate environment but rather that the person Torsten is inappropriate.

 

The Melbourne network wrote “You are not welcome to attend any of our gatherings … I was incorrect to invite you to our social function … as it is not an appropriate environment [for you].

 

Because the Melbourne “Christian” network leader initially welcomed, and without further communication with me he then changed his mind, it seems probable that a church-pastor in Melbourne advised the network-leader that Torsten is inappropriate. The patterns from several church-pastors in Melbourne in adopting an anti-Torsten position are: excommunications in absence of normal reason or Biblical basis, bizarre insinuations and accusation from church-pastors, refusal to explain or justify their excommunication, ostracism or obstruction, refusal to communicate, and refusal to welcome. All these patterns in Melbourne and beyond indicate an alliance of church-leaders who prioritise collegial loyalty at the expense of God, truth, justice and righteousness. Because lies by church-pastors are defeated by exposure, satan disseminates church-pastoral lies with secrecy. A crystal clear example of this satanic alliance of church-leaders in Melbourne are the words from the pastor of Beit HaMashiac church, who excommunicated Torsten based on advice from a church-pastor of another church, to excommunicate (http://www.kyrkor.be/BeitHaMashiach-Messianic-Church-Melbourne.pdf).

  

Since I am absolutely innocent in relation to all excommunications from churches, satan thrives on church-pastors’ sustainment and dissemination of church-pastoral lies, church-pastoral mindlessness, church-pastoral heartlessness, church-pastoral cowardice, and church-pastoral evil against me.

 

The complete dialogue with the recommended leader of the “Melbourne Network” for young adult “Christians” is read chronologically from the bottom upwards, beneath:

 

 

 

 

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Date:

Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:51:05 +1100

From:

torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org>

To:

Christians25 Christians25 <christians25@hotmail.com>, christians2030@gmail.com

Subject:

Ultimatum to Shawn Martin.

 

Shawn Martin, responsible for “Christian Network” Melbourne http://www.facebook.com/events/101294786722193/?ref=22

 

 

You have had ample time to explain your excommunication of an innocent person, but you have chosen to refuse to justify your action against me. Your secrecy, evasion, false accusations, deceit and allegiance with injustice and evil are all indicators of satan. So far, these matching descriptive traits have clearly signalled to me who you serve. You are in effect of your decisions serving satan. Your action brings further shame upon the churches of Melbourne.

 

You still have time to repent. If you do repent, then I will close this case against you and against the churches that you are in allegiance with. If you do not repent, then I will with certainty take this case into the public arena.

 

Regards,

 

Torsten Nenzen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:12:09 +1100

From:

torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org>

To:

Christians25 Christians25 <christians25@hotmail.com>

 

Shawn Martin.

 

I have already told you once: I do not have access to a phone number.

 

You are clearly evasive and secretive, which in "Christian" contexts is often an indicator of satan.

 

You chose to excommunicate me. You are refusing to explain why. You also refuse to reveal who you are, which church you attend, which church ministry you are part of, and the conditions for attendance in your network. On top of that you make allegations with arrogant and illogical advice.

 

Please answer the seven questions addressed to you. They are straight forward questions. If you have pure motives with your "network" then you will answer.

 

Regards,

 

Torsten Nenzen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Tue, 19 Mar 2013 01:46:34 +0000

From:

Christians25 Christians25 <christians25@hotmail.com>

To:

torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org>

 

I'm not prepared to get into a long email Torsten. Give me a number to call you on and I will go through it. In the meantime good luck with finding a woman. You are not welcome to attend any of our gatherings until I have spoken with you in person.

 

I would also suggest you stop emailing pastors here in melbourne settle down and commit to a church as this is the best way forward.

 

Shawn Martin

Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:31:17 +1100

From:

torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org>

To:

Christians25 Christians25 <christians25@hotmail.com>, christians2030@gmail.com

 

Shawn Martin;  responsible for the Networks “christians25@hotmail.com” and “christians2030@gmail.com”.

 

 

Hello Shawn Martin.

 

You chose to not reply yesterday on Monday, although that delay in reply from you would had given you three full days to explain yourself.

 

This is a reminder for you to answer and explain your decision to excommunicate me from your “Christian” network in Melbourne.

 

Please answer each of the following questions:

 

1.          In your first email response you welcomed me. Without further dialogue with you, you then sent another email to me stating that your previous decision to welcome me was incorrect. What prompted you to change attitude in relation to my attendance?

 

2.          Why do you state that this social event is an INAPPROPRIATE environment, specifically for me?

 

You do not state that this social event is ONLY for members of churches in Melbourne, but that it is MAINLY for persons who are "committed into a church" in Melbourne. Please explain this choice of vocabulary.

 

3.          What exactly are the conditions for attendance at your events?

 

4.          What exactly does you phrase "committed into a church" mean?

 

You write "Let us know when you are SETTLED."

 

5.          What exactly do you mean by the term settled?

 

6.          Which local church are you a member of?

 

7.          Is your “ministry” a part of a local church initiative? Which church?

 

Please answer these seven questions promptly.

 

Regards,

 

Torsten Nenzen

torsten@nenzen.net

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:32:11 +1100

From:

torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org>

To:

Christians25 Christians25 <christians25@hotmail.com>

 

Shawn Martin.

 

Take your time if you need. Please explain yourself on, say Monday.

 

An additional question to my other questions to you is what prompted your change of attitude?

 

I have no access to a phone.

 

Torsten Nenzen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:21:19 +1100

From:

Christians25 Christians25 <christians25@hotmail.com>

To:

<torsten@nenzen.net>

 

When you are near a phone let me know and I will call you. I don't intend on explaining myself on email especially on Friday afternoon after a long and hard weeks work.

Take Care

Shawn Martin

20/30 Christians

 

(Welcome, Love, Include, Serve)

 

20/30 is a multi-denominational network which runs social and outreach events for Christians who are in their 20's and 30's. Check us out on Facebook under 'Christians 20/30'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:11:31 +1100

From:

torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org>

To:

Christians25 Christians25 <christians25@hotmail.com>

 

Hello Shawn Martin.

 

I don't have a Melbourne number yet. But you are already talking to me in person. I am at the other end of your keyboard.

 

Please explain and answer my questions to you in my previous email. Thanks.

 

Regards,

 

Torsten Nenzen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:38:19 +1100

From:

Christians25 Christians25 <christians25@hotmail.com>

To:

<torsten@nenzen.net>

 

Give me your Melbourne number Torston and I'll talk to you in person.

 

Take Care

Shawn Martin

20/30 Christians

 

(Welcome, Love, Include, Serve)

20/30 is a multi-denominational network which runs social and outreach events for Christians who are in their 20's and 30's. Check us out on Facebook under 'Christians 20/30'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:29:24 +1100

From:

torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org>

To:

Christians25 Christians25 <christians25@hotmail.com>

 

Hello Shawn Martin.

 

You have taken an active step to excommunicate me from fellowship with other Christians in Melbourne.

 

Please do explain why you stated that this social event is an INAPPROPRIATE environment, specifically for me.

 

Also, you do not state that this social event is ONLY for members of churches in Melbourne, but that it is MAINLY for persons who are "committed into a church" in Melbourne. Please explain this choice of vocabulary. What exactly are the conditions for attendance at your events? What exactly does you phrase "committed into a church" mean?

 

Also, you declare four key words for your event as: welcome, love, include, serve. The reality of your decision to excommunicate me is that of: unwelcoming, unloving and exclusion.

 

Also, you write "Let us know when you are SETTLED." Please define what you mean by the term settled.

 

Regards,

 

Torsten Nenzen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:01:50 +1100

From:

Christians25 Christians25 <christians25@hotmail.com>

To:

<torsten@nenzen.net>

 

Hi Torsten

I was incorrect to invite you to our social function next Friday as it is not an appropriate environment. We are set up for mainly young Christians who are already committed into a church here in Melbourne. Let us know when you are settled and we can take another look at things for you.

 

Take Care Torsten

Shawn Martin

20/30 Christians

 

(Welcome, Love, Include, Serve)

20/30 is a multi-denominational network which runs social and outreach events for Christians who are in their 20's and 30's. Check us out on Facebook under 'Christians 20/30'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not welcome. Excommunication.

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Invited.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:42:53 +1100

From:

Christians25 Christians25 <christians25@hotmail.com>

To:

<torsten@nenzen.net>

 

Hi Torsten

Sure why don't you come into our launch next Friday and we can talk in person. Here are the details.

 

The first of only a handful of events planned for 2013. The network launch is an opportunity to meet like-minded Christians from across the city in a relaxed atmosphere. Come prepared to mix and mingle and hear in person what the 20/30 network is all about. $15 entry includes canapés.

 

All 20/30 events are run by volunteers, priced to cover event costs and purchased on-line (preferred) or by a referenced Bank Transfer. No door sales.

 

Online Ticketing ... Please go to http://www.trybooking.com/CKON

 

Westpac Bank Account Details (please include your full name)

Account name: 25 plus Christians

BSB: 036-094 Account No: 105122

 

Friday, March 22, 2013 6.30pm

The Apartment

401 Little Bourke Street, Melbourne, Victoria

 

Take Care

Shawn Martin

20/30 Christians

 

(Welcome, Love, Include, Serve)

20/30 is a multi-denominational network which runs social and outreach events for Christians who are in their 20's and 30's. Check us out on Facebook under 'Christians 20/30'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Sat, 09 Mar 2013 00:27:51 +1100

From:

torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org>

To:

christians25@hotmail.com, christians2030@gmail.com

 

Is this the same person: christians25@hotmail.com, christians2030@gmail.com ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Sat, 09 Mar 2013 00:19:01 +1100

From:

torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org>

To:

christians2030@gmail.com

 

Shawn Martin,

 

Hi!

 

I received information that there would be a gathering for Christian 20/30s here in Melbourne. I am a Christian and I would like to join.

 

I am not on Facebook, and I never will be.

 

When, where and how to join this gathering?

 

Best regards,

 

Torsten Nenzen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Fri, 8 Mar 2013 02:46:10 +0000

From:

Godwin Shim <Godwin.Shim@citylifechurch.com>

To:

<torsten@nenzen.net> <torsten@nenzen.net>

CC:

Young Adults <Youngadults@citylifechurch.com>, Nathan Brown <Nathan.Brown@citylifechurch.com>, Andria Pragasam <Andria.Pragasam@citylifechurch.com>, Josiah Conner <Josiah.Conner@citylifechurch.com>, Colin Dawson <Colin.Dawson@citylifechurch.com>, Tyson Popplestone <Tyson.Popplestone@citylifechurch.com>

 

Hi Torsten,

 

You might also be interested in 20/30 Christians. It is a multi-denominational network which runs social and outreach events for Christians who are in their 20's and 30's, led by Shawn Martin. Check out their Facebook under 'Christians 20/30'.

 

https://www.facebook.com/events/101294786722193/

 

Their launch is on Friday 22ndat The Apartment (401 Lt Bourke St) starting at 6.30.

 

Hope it helps.

 

Godwin

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date:

Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:09:25 +1100

From:

Nick Coombs <nickcoombs@cityonahill.com.au>

To:

torsten@nenzen.net

 

Hi Torsten,

 

I'll let Emily know, she organises those interested in Community Groups into groups. She should be in touch with you.

 

Other than facebook, I can give you the email of Shawn, the guy who runs this network. It is christians25@hotmail.com.

 

Cheers,

 

Nick