Christ Church London, UK

Christ Church London, United Kingdom,
partially excommunicates an innocent visitor.

Christ Church London is an example of a London church that ceased to reply to an inquiry, and covertly excommunicated an innocent visitor. In the beginning, Christ Church London appeared to be a welcoming church, but the church office soon decided to neither verify nor answer questions concerning a suspected partial excommunication of the visitor. After the church’s initial refusal to communicate and verify the partial excommunication, Christ Church London later confirmed through their elder that I had in fact been excommunicated from their church’s fellowship groups, and the church confirmed other bans against me.

During a scheduled interview with the delegated spokesperson for Christ Church London (church elder Ross Bull), it became apparent that Christ Church London was not intending to be entirely honest with me, and that this church is more disturbed about a Christian man wanting to marry a Christian woman, than the church is concerned with their church leaders’ slander, gossip, and shunning against an innocent visitor. If I would have sinned against anyone in their church, the Bible is clear in Matthew 18:15-17, to first ”confront him while the two of you are alone”. Instead, what the Christ Church London has done against me is to gossip, slander me, shun me, and partially excommunicate me because I have declared on my website that I want to marry a Christian woman.

At the interview with the representative for Christ Church London on August 2 ,2012, I asked their church-elder Ross Bull (http://christchurchlondon.org/leadershipteam) these four question:

1. Why is my application to join the 25+ group still pending?

2. Am I banned from the LifeGroup lead by Nick Mole?

3. Is there a welcoming LifeGroup in Christ Church London for me?

4. Are there opportunities in your church for single people to meet and communicate?

With pen and paper, I wrote some notes of the church-elder’s replies to my questions. After my introduction and explanation to why I requested this inquiry, the church-elder stated broadly what others in his church are saying about me (behind my back), and their concern (behind my back):

· “They [the church staff, leaders and members] are saying: You have a different approach. […] How should we be responding to his requests? […] How can we help?”

· “They [the church staff, leaders and members] are concerned: […] picking up an unusual focused manner which makes them unsettled.”

Question 1: Why is my application to join the 25+ group still pending?

Answer: “They [church staff and leaders] got caught up in this unsettledness.”, “It got left.”, “They have been procrastinating.”

Question 2: Am I banned from the LifeGroup lead by Nick Mole?

Answer: “He has chosen to pass that to his pastor and coach.”

Q: Have you heard that he [Nick Mole] has spoken to other people in the church about me?

A: “Yes.”

Q: Would you say that he and other LifeGroup leaders have followed Biblical principles for communication?

A: “He should have communicated first to the eldership. That has now come to me as the responsible person.”

Q: How did the LifeGroup leader Nick Mole’s concern regarding me come to you?

A: “Through other staff members.”

Question 3: Is there a welcoming LifeGroup in Christ Church London for me?

Answer: “…people had picked up…”, “…left people with unease.”

Q: How had people in your church “picked up”?

A: “They picked up by communicating among LifeGroup leaders.”

Q: Was there anything ungodly, objectionable or inappropriate about my conduct, either in any LifeGroup setting or in any Sunday service?

A: “There was nothing inappropriate from you in the services or in the socials.”

Q: Then what is the inappropriate aspect about me?

A: “It has been comments on your objective to find a wife.”

Q: From where did this information about finding a wife come?

A: “From emails [posted on my website: http://www.kyrkor.be/Inhumane_Swedish_Pastors.pdf]. Maybe also from conversations.”

Question 4: Are there opportunities in your church for single people to meet and communicate?

Answer: “We don’t organise things like that. It is left to be organic.”

Even though Christ Church London is one of the more centrally organised churches in London, utilising technologically aided social networking (https://christchurchlondon.onthecity.org/login), Christ Church London stated to me that their church does not organise opportunities for single people to meet and communicate. However, Christ Church London does effectively orchestrate obstructions against my possibility of participation in their organised opportunities where also single people can meet and communicate. Christ Church London banned me from their largest online social networking group “25+”, Christ Church London banned me from all their weekly LifeGroup fellowship groups, and, not only Christ Church London leaders but also several regular church members shunned me when I visited their Sunday service.

The ministers, staff and group leaders of Christ Church London, United Kingdom, prove to be a cowardly, slandering, and gossiping. And, the evasion of answers to questions 3 & 4 (if I am welcome, and if there are social opportunities) by the church elder of Christ Church London, Ross Bull, perhaps adorns this church elder with an appropriate surname. Christ Church London of Newfrontiers truly is devilish.

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July 28, 2012, 14:55

Text message from church elder Ross Bull:

“Hi Torsten, I could do Thursday 2 August at 1100. Would Starbucks at the entrance to Victoria Rail Station be ok for you? Ross”

July 28, 2012, 20:40

Text message from Torsten Nenzen:

“Hello Ross. I will meet u this Thursday at 11am at Starbucks at Victoria station. T”

July 29, 2012, 19:10

Text message from Torsten Nenzen:

“Possibly a change of plans: prior to a meeting with you as the representative for Christ Church London, I will require that you state your purpose of a meeting and the basic message that you want to tell me. T”

July 30, 2012, 12:54

Text message from church elder Ross Bull:

“Hi Torsten, i trust that you are well. Sorry to hear that you might have a change of plans. I would be happy to rearrange the date. What dates would suit you? As regards our meeting, this was to chat about communication as I mentioned when we chatted on Sunday 22nd. I would be hoping from this chat to understand how we go forward. Take care and see you soon. Ross”

July 30, 2012, 13:10

Text message from Torsten Nenzen:

“Chatting about the Christ Church London refusal to communicate and refusal to answer resolves nothing. The way forward is for your church to reply to my email. You need to answer my email. T”

August 1, 2012, 13:21

Text message from church elder Ross Bull:

“Hi Torsten, I was reviewing my diary for Thursday. Are you still on to meet with me as arranged? Also, following your last text, I have given consideration to the situation and would now confirm that church communication will be through me in person. I look forward to hearing from you about Thursday. Ross”

August 1, 2012, 15:23

Text message from Torsten Nenzen:

“Hello Ross. What is the basic message from you? If we meet, are you going to answer the questions that I have stated in all previous emails? T”

August 1, 2012, 19:49

Text message from church elder Ross Bull:

“Hi Torsten. I am not coming with a predetermined message. I am keen that we dialogue, and that includes answers. See you there. Ross”

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