The devilish church-pastor Lawrence Hirsch and his “Beit HaMashiac” Messianic church in Melbourne, Australia, excommunicated an innocent Christian without a reason, threatened the innocent person to not attempt to attend any of their services, and refused to justify the excommunication.
(http://www.beithamashiach.com)
(http://www.celebratemessiah.com.au)
Satan governs many of the churches in Melbourne through alliances of pastors and ministry leaders who prioritise collegial loyalty at the expense of God, love, truth, and justice. The evils of many (perhaps even most) church-pastors in Melbourne are a testimony to how satan has hijacked many churches, also in Melbourne.
Three consecutive Saturdays I visited the Beit HaMashiac Church in Melbourne, and I had intended to continue visiting there every Shabbat, since I am very closely connected to the Messianic Jewish movement. However, presumably as a consequence after my excommunication from one of the largest churches in Australia by the satanic Baptist pastor Dale Stephenson (http://www.kyrkor.be/Crossway-Baptist-Church-Melbourne.htm), the devilish church-pastor Lawrence Hirsch, who seems to be in satanic alliance with Dale Stephenson, excommunicated me also from his Beit HaMashiac church, although I am entirely innocent of any wrongdoing in relation to any excommunication against me anywhere.
Lawrence Hirsch and his Beit HaMashiac church in Melbourne emailed this excommunicating letter: http://www.kyrkor.be/BeitHaMashiach-Messianic-Church-Melbourne.pdf
The patterns from several church-pastors in Melbourne in adopting an anti-Torsten position are: excommunications in absence of normal reason or Biblical basis, bizarre insinuations and accusation from church-pastors, refusal to explain or justify their excommunication, ostracism or obstruction, refusal to communicate, and refusal to welcome. All these patterns in Melbourne and beyond indicate an alliance of church-leaders who prioritise collegial loyalty at the expense of God, truth, justice and righteousness. Because lies by church-pastors are defeated by exposure, satan disseminates church-pastoral lies with secrecy. A crystal clear example of this satanic alliance of church-leaders in Melbourne are the words from this pastor of Beit HaMashiac church, who excommunicated Torsten based on advice from a church-pastor of another church, to excommunicate (http://www.kyrkor.be/BeitHaMashiach-Messianic-Church-Melbourne.pdf).
Every Messianic church associated with Chosen People Ministries (http://www.chosenpeople.com) that I have visited have chosen to either excommunicate (Melbourne), ostracise (New York) or shun (London). Previously, the Messianic church Sha’ar Adonai in New York ostracised Torsten from attendance at their church (http://www.kyrkor.be/Shaar-Adonai-Church.htm), and the Messainic church Beit Sar Shalom in London (http://www.beitsarshalom.org.uk) (http://daniel.nessim.org) shunned Torsten. As much as I wish that the Chosen People Ministries would understand how to behave better, their churches instead sadly serve as a testimony of extreme hypocrisy and mercilessness.
Since I am absolutely innocent in relation to all excommunications from churches, satan thrives on church-pastors’ sustainment and dissemination of church-pastoral lies, church-pastoral mindlessness, church-pastoral heartlessness, church-pastoral cowardice, and church-pastoral evil against me.
The complete dialogue (monologue) with “Beit HaMashiac Church” in Melbourne is read chronologically from the bottom upwards, beneath:
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Date: |
Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:19:24 +1100 |
To: |
Lawrence Hirsch <lhirsch@celebratemessiah.com.au>, beithatikvah@celebratemessiah.com.au, enquiries@celebratemessiah.com.au, churchrelations@celebratemessiah.com.au, barry@celebratemessiah.com.au, tikkunolam@celebratemessiah.com.au, simcha@celebratemessiah.com.au, run@celebratemessiah.com.au, robyn@celebratemessiah.com.au |
CC: |
info@chosenpeople.com, cpm@chosenpeople.com, zgonen@chosenpeople.com, lvasquez@chosenpeople.com, beth@chosenpeople.com, mitchglaser@chosenpeople.com, mherts@chosenpeople.com, opportunities@chosenpeople.com, experience@chosenpeople.com, info@chosenpeople.org.uk, israel@chosenpeople.com, zgonen@chosenpeople.com, info@chosenpeople.ca, lvasquez@chosenpeople.com, julia@chosenpeople.com, ask@chosenpeople.com, outreachisrael@celebratemessiah.com.au |
Subject: |
Beit HaMashiac Church |
Beit HaMashiac Church.
CC: Chosen People Ministries.
BCC: Selected individuals in Melbourne with particular interests.
The past two weeks I have asked your church several times to explain your excommunication of me from your church. I patiently waited for your Messianic church (http://beithamashiach.com) to reply to my questions addressed to you.
You have chosen to refuse to reply to my questions regarding your excommunication against me, and you have chosen to refuse to provide an answer to my specific question if your excommunication against me also applies to St. Kilda Town Hall. I therefore find it reasonable to conclude that you have also banned me from St. Kilda Town Hall on March 28, but that you lack the courage to say so. It is therefore evident that your public invitation on your website which states that “All are welcome” (http://www.celebratemessiah.com.au/upcoming-events/events-calendar.html?task=view_event&event_id=13) does not apply to all people.
Because I am not welcome, I shall of course neither visit St. Kilda Town Hall.
You demonstrate by your refusal to morally and Biblically justify your excommunication against me with any facts of wrongdoing, that your Messianic church is fully content to excommunicate the innocent. By this unjust act and unrighteous attitude, you are a living testimony to the governance of satan within your church organization, and also within your Messianic umbrella organization in Australia (http://celebratemessiah.com.au).
Your church's unrighteous stance in this matter brings shame not only over your local Messianic church, but sadly, your evil act against me heavily underscores the extreme hypocrisy, mindlessness and heartlessness of many other churches similar to yours.
(http://www.kyrkor.be/BeitHaMashiach-Messianic-Church-Melbourne.pdf) (http://www.kyrkor.be/Crossway-Baptist-Church-Melbourne.htm).
Regards,
Torsten Nenzén
Email: torsten@nenzen.net
Skype: blessisrael
Date: |
Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:08:02 +1100 |
From: |
torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org> |
To: |
Lawrence Hirsch <lhirsch@celebratemessiah.com.au>, beithatikvah@celebratemessiah.com.au, enquiries@celebratemessiah.com.au, churchrelations@celebratemessiah.com.au, barry@celebratemessiah.com.au, tikkunolam@celebratemessiah.com.au, simcha@celebratemessiah.com.au, run@celebratemessiah.com.au, robyn@celebratemessiah.com.au |
Subject: |
Beit HaMashiac Church |
Reminder 3: In reference to my previous letters, March 16, 23 & 25, I expect that your Beit HaMashiac Church will respond promptly.
Date: |
Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:42:31 +1100 |
From: |
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To: |
Lawrence Hirsch <lhirsch@celebratemessiah.com.au> |
CC: |
beithatikvah@celebratemessiah.com.au, enquiries@celebratemessiah.com.au, churchrelations@celebratemessiah.com.au, barry@celebratemessiah.com.au, tikkunolam@celebratemessiah.com.au, simcha@celebratemessiah.com.au, run@celebratemessiah.com.au, robyn@celebratemessiah.com.au |
Subject: |
Beit HaMashiac Church |
Reminder 2: In reference to my previous letters, March 16 & 23, I expect that your Beit HaMashiac Church will respond promptly.
Date: |
Sat, 23 Mar 2013 23:48:15 +1100 |
From: |
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To: |
Lawrence Hirsch <lhirsch@celebratemessiah.com.au> |
CC: |
beithatikvah@celebratemessiah.com.au, enquiries@celebratemessiah.com.au, churchrelations@celebratemessiah.com.au, barry@celebratemessiah.com.au, tikkunolam@celebratemessiah.com.au, simcha@celebratemessiah.com.au, run@celebratemessiah.com.au, robyn@celebratemessiah.com.au |
Subject: |
Beit HaMashiac Church |
In reference to my previous letter, March 16, I expect that your Beit HaMashiac Church will respond promptly.
To: Beit HaMashiac Congregation.
CC: Chosen People Ministries.
BCC: Selected individuals in Melbourne with particular interests.
I am still waiting for your Messianic Church (http://beithamashiach.com) to reply to my questions addressed to you yesterday.
In addition to those questions, I have one final question to your church. I was planning to visit the Passover banquet at St. Kilda Town Hall on March 28. Since you have excommunicated me without any further explanation, I would like to know if the public invitation on your website (http://www.celebratemessiah.com.au/upcoming-events/events-calendar.html?task=view_event&event_id=13) applies to all people, or if I am excommunicated by your church also from the premises of St. Kilda Town Hall. On your website you write that “All are welcome”.
In further query to your excommunication against me (http://www.kyrkor.be/BeitHaMashiach-Messianic-Church-Melbourne.pdf), in spite that I am entirely innocent of any wrongdoing, I would like to know if you are referring in your attached letter to the excommunication from the Crossway Baptist Church in Melbourne (http://www.kyrkor.be/Crossway-Baptist-Church-Melbourne.htm), with background to the series of churches that, like yourself, also chose to excommunicate the innocent (http://www.kyrkor.be/Inhumane_Swedish_Pastors.pdf)?
Regards,
Torsten Nenzén
Email: torsten@nenzen.net
Skype: blessisrael
Date: |
Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:17:32 +1100 |
From: |
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To: |
Lawrence Hirsch <lhirsch@celebratemessiah.com.au> |
Subject: |
Fwd: Re: Beit HaMashiach |
Lawrence Hirsch.
In addition to my previous questions to you regarding your excommunication of me from your Beith HaMashiac Church, which you still have not replied to, I also want to know on what Biblical basis that you excommunicate me.
Regards,
Torsten Nenzen
Date: |
Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:49:36 +1100 |
From: |
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To: |
Lawrence Hirsch <lhirsch@celebratemessiah.com.au> |
Subject: |
Re: Beit HaMashiach |
Lawrence Hirsch,
You write that you have decided to excommunicate me from your church, Beith HaMashiac Congregation, based on the advice of a pastor of another church.
Did a pastor from another church contact you to advise that Torsten should be excommunicated? Which pastor, and from which church, recommended that you should excommunicate me? What exactly did that pastor advise, and on what basis?
Regards,
Torsten Nenzen
Date: |
Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:45:03 +1100 |
From: |
Lawrence Hirsch <lhirsch@celebratemessiah.com.au> |
To: |
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Subject: |
Beit HaMashiach |
Dear Torsten,
Please read the attached letter.
Many thanks,
Lawrence
Date: |
Sat, 23 Feb 2013 02:13:05 +1100 |
From: |
torsten@nenzen.net <nenzen@nenzen.org> |
To: |
rabbi@beithamashiach.com |
Subject: |
where / when |
I would like to congregate in Melbourne.
Where and when?
Torsten Nenzen